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Post by SoTxCaiman on Jan 30, 2024 16:21:47 GMT -5
Don't forget that in a pinch RDB has Montrell Johnson in the wildcat ready and waiting to go. Yes, finally a complete back who can run, block, pass, and catch snaps through the legs of a QB. The defense won't know what we're going to do. and don't forget, he has SunBelt experience!
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Post by Mojave Gator on Jan 30, 2024 17:21:58 GMT -5
Joe Brady was permanently promoted to OC for the Buffalo Bills.
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Post by tapsgator on Jan 31, 2024 12:25:33 GMT -5
Joe Brady was permanently promoted to OC for the Buffalo Bills. There was never a doubt. I think he prefers the NFL. Even if he didn't Florida run by the Dynamic Delta Duo is probably somewhere around 60-80 on most attractive college jobs and close to last in the Power 5. With a different AD and/or coach a guy like Brian Johnson or Brady might be a possibility so they could get the inside track on the head job, but right now? No way. I'll give you a better one though. Kirby Moore. He's the OC who just saved Eli's job in Missouri. He worked under Tedford and Deboer and then Tedford again at Fresno State. He worked his way up to OC as opposed to our fearless leader who went backwards and didn't ever get promoted to OC FOR A DECADE. He went from Fresno State to Mizzou. Logical vertical move would be a school like Florida where there is a clear need and still probably more talent on the roster than Mizzou. He won't get a call and he wouldn't take the job anyway. Why would he? There's a much better chance Drinkwitz gets a better job and Mizzou promotes from within than Florida moves on and hires from within Napier's staff. The fact that Gator "experts" in the media, and honestly Zack adabbadabadoo isn't nearly as bad as he used to be, actually think that a guy like Joe Brady would come be the OC at UF under Billy Napier is hilarious. "Well they probably crossed paths when Napier was the head coach at Louisiana and Napier has said he's impressed with Joe Brady and what he did at LSU." No shit, everybody was impressed, problem is Joe Brady (and any other qualified candidate for a coordinator position) is not particularly impressed with Billy Napier. What about the UF OC job is attractive? Napier clearly doesn't want to hire anybody, you've got a limited QB that the majority of the fanbase fueled by the sunshine pumping media thinks is great and can do no wrong, the line is a mess and projects to be worse than last year, and your best player just transferred to a rival. "No autonomy, no foundation, guys with a low ceiling, and I get thrown under the bus? Where do I sign?" Same thing with position coaches on the other side of the ball. Who in their right mind with any sort of options is going to accept a position where they are subordinate to Austin Armstrong? Especially since the two most proven commodities in Raymond and Spencer were used as sacrificial lambs. That's why Travaris Robinson went to UGA, DJ Durkin just went to Auburn, while we are taking in the guy that Hugh Freeze de facto fired and acting like he's a savior. That's who we get, we get guys with no other comparable options. Harris beat the post Staley coaching purge win San Diego. Robinson was given the opportunity to step down at Auburn. I guess the guy from Tulane is the closest to a vertical move. From Tulane. In the Delta. That's a deal. Anyways, Jeff Scott at OC incoming.
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Post by tapsgator on Feb 1, 2024 10:21:20 GMT -5
This one highlights the disconnect between local media versus SEC guys. SEC coaches power rankings: 14. Billy Napier, Florida The now: Florida AD Scott Stricklin points to Napier’s recruiting, but the 2024 class (ranked No. 15 by 247Sports composite) was the program’s worst ranking since Napier’s 1st class in 2022 (No. 18). That 2022 Napier class, his first with the program, was Florida’s worst since 2015 (No. 21) under Jim McElwain. Then there’s the development and retention. In a word: woof. The future: A win or walk season includes the most difficult schedule in the nation, and the hope that young players develop quickly and make a significant impact. A tough ask in a brutal conference. Napier and Stricklin point to the Arkansas and Missouri games as proof of growth, and that Florida was much closer to improvement than the record indicates. But the Gators lost both games because of coaching decisions — not random bad luck. www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/first-and-10-power-ranking-the-sec-head-coaches-in-2024-and-more/
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Post by g8rfan on Feb 1, 2024 16:09:51 GMT -5
I wish people would stop bringing up the schedule. It’s the SEC. It’s always a tough road. We used to be on the other side of that. One of the tough games on other people’s schedule. When the homers point to next years schedule it amounts to making excuses in advance for losing games in my opinion. It reinforces a losers mentality that has somehow permeated our fan base. I’m fully on the win or walk train. WIN. OR. WALK. Stop making excuses and win.
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Post by tapsgator on Feb 2, 2024 9:51:33 GMT -5
Oh yeah, there has not been an era that I've been alive where a coach at UF being considered the 14th best out of 16 SEC coaches would have even gotten him a 3rd year. Zook was never the 14th (or 12th) best coach in the conference. Those guys coach has-been or never-was schools. The sunshine pumping fanbase and local media are bound and determined to normalize 15th ranked recruiting classes and losing seasons. It would be infuriating if I allowed myself to take Cajun Willie and Starkville Scotty seriously.
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Post by tapsgator on Feb 2, 2024 10:00:06 GMT -5
They made up a category, fabricate information for example Lagway played in the smallest division in Texas, his competition sucked, he's struggled a bit on the camp circuit as he adjusts to elite speed and physicality at the high school level. Then let's act like it's a good thing that these Freshman SHOULD (and I think it's absolutely foolish to think that Napier will allow a Freshman QB to play over a 6th year senior that he considers a system fit) be on the field regularly. Also "prototypical Georgia kid" tells us all we need to know about the state of our program.
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Post by Mojave Gator on Feb 3, 2024 16:59:59 GMT -5
This team will not win 6 games. Might not win 5. They won't win four. Despite the Mario Cristobal factor, I expect Miami to roll us in the home opener, setting the tone for a catastrophic season. I have watched several preseason prognostications. None of them expect us to crack .500.
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Post by Mojave Gator on Feb 4, 2024 20:28:03 GMT -5
Exactly right. I remember speaking with Machen when he was out here in No Cal on a PR visit with our local Gator club after he first became UF president. When I asked him what he thought about UM as a coach from his Utah days his eyes just lit up, and to this day I'll never forget his response: You think he'd come to UF? Maybe he was just playing with me but maybe not. The point is that I am not giving Foley credit for that hire. For further evidence that Foley was nothing more than the messenger for that hire, one need only see how it was conducted versus Foley's other hires for head coach. Ron Zook - Foley admittedly went solely off his own list, which included Zook and two coaches that they had zero chances of hiring, Mike Shanahan (who wasn't leaving the Denver Broncos for college football, especially after two Super Bowl wins), and Bob Stoops, who had just won a national title at Oklahoma and wasn't going to leave to follow the legend. Zook, on the other hand, was on the verge of being fired as DC by the New Orleans Saints after his defense collapsed and cost them a playoff spot. He has the bonus of being demoted from DC at Florida and then being given the top job. Will Muschamp - Another of Foley's short listers, who absolutely no one else was after. Allegedly the coach in waiting at Texas while Mack Brown was the head man in Austin. Foley outsmarted himself by once again going after a coach who no one else was pursuing. History tells us which approach was the correct one. Jim McElwain - Foley's trip to Fort Collins was so secretive that the Colorado sports media were waiting at the airport when his plane landed. Once again, he was racing against himself to get the hire done. Contrast this with the Urban Meyer hire. It was total radio silence, when Foley swooped in and pulled Meyer out from under Notre Dame. Nobody even knew that Florida was a contender for his services. We won two national titles.
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Post by tapsgator on Feb 9, 2024 9:16:04 GMT -5
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Feb 9, 2024 15:52:05 GMT -5
I think the things that screams the loudest to me, shouting RDB is not the guy, is the silence coming from SOS. No defense of the plan, no defense of the process, no praise of the analytics, no defense of the man himself, just silence.
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Post by Mojave Gator on Feb 9, 2024 16:03:34 GMT -5
Oh yeah, there has not been an era that I've been alive where a coach at UF being considered the 14th best out of 16 SEC coaches would have even gotten him a 3rd year. I can't say that. I was at UF during the Doug Dickey years. Dickey brought in a lot of talent and did a terrific job of squandering most of it. In 1974, a year when we lost four games, we had a lead at halftime in all of them. In that respect he was a lot like Zook. Get a lead by the end of the second quarter, then try to run out the clock in the second half. Other teams adjust while you go into a shell, and it often bites you.
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Post by wahhappen on Feb 9, 2024 18:32:16 GMT -5
Oh yeah, there has not been an era that I've been alive where a coach at UF being considered the 14th best out of 16 SEC coaches would have even gotten him a 3rd year. I can't say that. I was at UF during the Doug Dickey years. Dickey brought in a lot of talent and did a terrific job of squandering most of it. In 1974, a year when we lost four games, we had a lead at halftime in all of them. In that respect he was a lot like Zook. Get a lead by the end of the second quarter, then try to run out the clock in the second half. Other teams adjust while you go into a shell, and it often bites you. To be fair, Dickey thought he was still coaching at Tennessee during his tenure. Brought in turf, orange uniforms, etc.
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Post by bimigator on Feb 9, 2024 21:44:28 GMT -5
Well, fellas, seems he's gonna hold onto the playbook. footballscoop.com/news/billy-napier-says-he-wants-to-keep-calling-plays-at-floridaAfter all, says Billy: “I think down the stretch we played pretty good offense. We created a bunch of explosive plays. We scored points. I think we’ve got a quarterback that’s returning in the same system." Makes sense. After all, our offense closed out "the stretch" with five straight losses in which we averaged 27 ppg and 217 passing yards. Talk about EXPLOSIVE!!!
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Post by gatordoll on Feb 10, 2024 7:39:04 GMT -5
We now have the guy who was OC at Samford being groomed by Cajun Willie. What a great plan.
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Post by Mojave Gator on Feb 10, 2024 13:36:14 GMT -5
Well, fellas, seems he's gonna hold onto the playbook. footballscoop.com/news/billy-napier-says-he-wants-to-keep-calling-plays-at-floridaAfter all, says Billy: “I think down the stretch we played pretty good offense. We created a bunch of explosive plays. We scored points. I think we’ve got a quarterback that’s returning in the same system." Makes sense. After all, our offense closed out "the stretch" with five straight losses in which we averaged 27 ppg and 217 passing yards. Talk about EXPLOSIVE!!! I must have missed that "bunch of explosive plays", despite the fact that I watched every play of every game during that stretch. Case in point: The Florida State game, in which the offense scored ten points in the first quarter and didn't dent the scoreboard again.
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Feb 13, 2024 10:41:34 GMT -5
ESPN put out a pre-season 2024, Top 25. After not finding the Gators on the list I went to the notes at the bottom of the list....
Dropped out: Washington (No. 11), SMU (No. 24), Iowa (No. 25)
Just missed: USC, Washington, SMU, Iowa, Wisconsin, West Virginia, Boise State, Air Force, Liberty
Nope, not there either.
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Post by wahhappen on Feb 13, 2024 10:58:38 GMT -5
Yeah. Remember when you could jump on ESPN and check the score really quick? Now we must find the drop down to the "other scores" since we are not listed among the top 25.
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Post by tapsgator on Feb 13, 2024 11:21:55 GMT -5
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Feb 13, 2024 11:45:24 GMT -5
@ 5.5 I want the under
“Big-picture wise, we’re taking the group of people that we have and we’re trying to develop some people, groom some people. We’ve done a ton of work in the offseason to kind of evaluate that in terms of what that looks like,”
I am sorry, but THE University of Florida should not have a football staff with members that are being developed or groomed. Shouldn't happen.
"Yeah, I mean the head coach for the defense, basically a guy who oversees that side of the ball to some degree. Austin’s obviously the coordinator, he calls the plays and runs the unit meetings, but we’re getting a guy who can coach the coaches and improve the installation and game plan, he’s the head coach of the defense to some degree."
So basically our DC now has a high priced baby sitter.
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Post by wahhappen on Feb 13, 2024 12:15:31 GMT -5
@ 5.5 I want the under “Big-picture wise, we’re taking the group of people that we have and we’re trying to develop some people, groom some people. We’ve done a ton of work in the offseason to kind of evaluate that in terms of what that looks like,” I am sorry, but THE University of Florida should not have a football staff with members that are being developed or groomed. Shouldn't happen. "Yeah, I mean the head coach for the defense, basically a guy who oversees that side of the ball to some degree. Austin’s obviously the coordinator, he calls the plays and runs the unit meetings, but we’re getting a guy who can coach the coaches and improve the installation and game plan, he’s the head coach of the defense to some degree." So basically our DC now has a high priced baby sitter. Agreed. Also, having reread the defensive head coach quote now several times, I am completely dumbfounded as to how this nonsense is not being completely mocked across the nation. "Austin’s obviously the coordinator, he calls the plays and runs the unit meetings, but we’re getting a guy who can coach the coaches and improve the installation and game plan" IS THAT NOT WTF A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR DOES??? HE IS ADMITTING RIGHT TO THE FACES OF THE MEDIA THAT HE HIRED AN UNQUALIFIED DC, AND NO ONE EVEN BATS AN EYE?? I have been racking my brain trying to understand the leeway he gets, but I have figured it out and can now move on with my life. The only reason this stuff continues to go unchallenged is because we are irrelevant. The transition is complete. We are not a laughing stock because nobody knows we exist. You can't laugh publicly at something nobody pays attention to. At least when Mullen did and said stupid stuff people cared. When Zook blew a huge lead, he was questioned. When Muschamp threw a tantrum on the sideline, it made the highlights. And when McElwain got caught fucking a shark, it caused concern over his well-being. But nobody seems to give two shits about what RDB does because we are not even on the radar of existence.
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Post by tapsgator on Feb 14, 2024 11:24:35 GMT -5
You guys hit the nail on the head. You probably did a deal where you evaluated the nail for 6-8 weeks, analyzed the mechanics of the deal of hitting the nail, whereas before immediate contact process made sustainable and repeatable. Right?
"The amount of time and energy that’s been put into creating a system that we have in place now, it probably took us 18 months to get a pulse on the landscape, what it would require to be competitive… and also more importantly, the type of people you want to attract to your program. We are built to be sustainable and repeatable, I can’t compliment Florida Victorious enough. There’s a ton of people who have invested a lot of time and resources, so we have great resources, we have an incredible alumni network, I think more importantly is the strategy behind it, how it’s constructed, what you’re using NIL for."
18 months. That should be grounds for immediate termination. Also, that last sentence would be cause for concern about intoxication or latent effects of head trauma except that's just how he talks.
From the IAKOW article:
"It’s obvious that Napier studies the Georgia program and tries to copy what Kirby Smart has done. He’s not even trying to hide it– he plagiarized that “coaching the coaches” line from a press conference Kirby Smart gave three years ago when he brought Will Muschamp on as an analyst in 2021, and then promoted him to co-DC a year later. And it’s because he seems to be such a fascinated student of what Smart is doing at Georgia that makes this distinction– and his failure to grasp it– so alarming."
He copies everybody he's worked for, or I should say tries to copy. A lot of people do that, he's just insanely bad at it, and adds these weird quirks because he doesn't understand why or how it works. To make matters worse because his version worked in the Sunbelt he will absolutely not vary from it.
Here's the thing I come back to though: why? I refuse to believe the guy is actually this stupid, I don't think you get as far in your career as he has if you're not intelligent on some level. I don't think Saban would let a guy that can't give a straight answer be even an analyst much less recruiting coordinator (made up title but at least there's a reason for it) and position coach. I think the real problem is that it's working for him. For whatever reason the majority of the fanbase is okay with a horrible AD making bad decision after bad decision and signing off on company lines that are flat preposterous.
So in a way I think it's Pavlovian, after the first couple times saying "process," "sustainable," and/or "repeatable," and the sheeple nodding their heads in unison saying "what a genial fellow, he gets it, he's building something long term" it's become a reflex, keep saying nonsensical stuff and they keep giving you big checks that don't bounce. At this point I don't know that any of the things coming out of the building have any nexus to reality whatsoever. It's just a constant cover-up of the fact that we have become an inferior product and the program is at a low not seen since Hitler was making early speeches in Germany and somehow still on a downward trajectory.
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Post by soflaisgatorcountry on Feb 14, 2024 12:05:20 GMT -5
This team will not win 6 games. Might not win 5. They won't win four. Despite the Mario Cristobal factor, I expect Miami to roll us in the home opener, setting the tone for a catastrophic season. I have watched several preseason prognostications. None of them expect us to crack .500. I dont see this happening. Miami has gone 12-13 the past 2 seasons vs a horrendous ACC schedule. Mario rode Diaz's defense which is all gone except R.Baines. Cam Ward is nothing special and has played attrocious competition throughout his career. Then factor Mario is just as bad as Napier on Gameday but actually worse in terms of holding back his offenses. Fla plays teams better and more talented than Mia all the time. I think Napier actually wins this game and then well see Fla's slow demise as the season plays on (as Napier has done both seasons prior).
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Post by tapsgator on Feb 14, 2024 12:31:38 GMT -5
Oh yeah, there has not been an era that I've been alive where a coach at UF being considered the 14th best out of 16 SEC coaches would have even gotten him a 3rd year. I can't say that. I was at UF during the Doug Dickey years. Dickey brought in a lot of talent and did a terrific job of squandering most of it. In 1974, a year when we lost four games, we had a lead at halftime in all of them. In that respect he was a lot like Zook. Get a lead by the end of the second quarter, then try to run out the clock in the second half. Other teams adjust while you go into a shell, and it often bites you. Was Dickey actually bad enough to be considered in the bottom 15% of coaches in the conference though? It was a different time but he would have had to be the second worst. If he brought in more talent than the average SEC team and they stayed in school no matter how bad a game coach he was he's still ahead of Napier.
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Post by Mojave Gator on Feb 17, 2024 23:42:29 GMT -5
I can't say that. I was at UF during the Doug Dickey years. Dickey brought in a lot of talent and did a terrific job of squandering most of it. In 1974, a year when we lost four games, we had a lead at halftime in all of them. In that respect he was a lot like Zook. Get a lead by the end of the second quarter, then try to run out the clock in the second half. Other teams adjust while you go into a shell, and it often bites you. Was Dickey actually bad enough to be considered in the bottom 15% of coaches in the conference though? It was a different time but he would have had to be the second worst. If he brought in more talent than the average SEC team and they stayed in school no matter how bad a game coach he was he's still ahead of Napier. I don't recall any coach ratings back then. He managed to lose to less talented teams multiple times, and his game strategy was atrocious. We even toyed with running the wishbone on scattered plays, an offense that (as I discovered after transferring to Oklahoma) you cannot master to any level of effectiveness unless you run it consistently. Not a lot of game awareness either. I remember a quarterback throwing the ball out of bounds on fourth down to stop the clock on our final drive with us trailing Ole Miss 13-10. There was no transfer portal back then, and players generally had to sit out for a year if they transferred. Transfers were rare. I only recall scattered instances in which players didn't have to sit out after moving. One involved a player transferring to a school closer to home to care for his ailing father.
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Post by tapsgator on Mar 7, 2024 13:57:22 GMT -5
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Mar 7, 2024 14:45:59 GMT -5
I love all the headlines that say "Gators in 5 Stars top 13". Let me translate for you....the kid means "there are 12 other schools I would rather go to than UF". If we were the kid's 4th favorite, the story would say we were in his top 4 not his top 13.
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Post by wahhappen on Mar 7, 2024 18:00:06 GMT -5
What is the difference between this list and just a list of potential recruits that I print off of my home printer and say, “man, would be great to have these guys”?
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Post by tapsgator on Mar 8, 2024 11:25:54 GMT -5
What is the difference between this list and just a list of potential recruits that I print off of my home printer and say, “man, would be great to have these guys”? Nothing as long as you have some "sources" and then dive into analysis of what those sources "Sources say that he knows Scott Sricklin does ritualistic fellatio on farm animals, so UF has some ground to make up here" That sort of thing.
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Post by wahhappen on Mar 8, 2024 13:08:07 GMT -5
What is the difference between this list and just a list of potential recruits that I print off of my home printer and say, “man, would be great to have these guys”? Nothing as long as you have some "sources" and then dive into analysis of what those sources "Sources say that he knows Scott Sricklin does ritualistic fellatio on farm animals, so UF has some ground to make up here" That sort of thing. Note to self: Get "sources"
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