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[Rock Gator]

Anthony Richardson's Odds to Be Selected No. 1 See Huge Shift Ahead of 2023 NFL Draft

What does Las Vegas know?

When the 2022 college football season concluded, Florida star Anthony Richardson was a significant long shot to go first overall in the 2023 NFL draft. Since then, his odds at DraftKings Sportsbook have been surging.

Richardson is now +750 to be the first player off the board.

Anthony Richardson's odds to be the No. 1 pick
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Opened: +10000
Last Week: +5000
Yesterday: +1500
Today: +750

What's going on? 🧐

I'm rooting for the kid, but IDK if being a top pick (if it happens) is actually good for his development.

RG

[tapsgator]

I saw that. I agree across the board, this would be horrible for him because someone would likely trade up to get him putting even more pressure to play early. Honestly he should have gone back to school, being completely objective he should have transferred to a school and/or staff that has developed QBs, Ohio state, Bama, Clemson now that Riley is there although they have klubnick, but Ohio state he would’ve been throwing to projected first rounders (Harrison Jr may be top 5) behind an nfl line. Bama I think he easily beats out Milroe. Even I have been surprised by his rise, but in hindsight when he was rolling he looked better against SEC defenses than tray lance did at South Dakota state. He’s a little bigger, has a better arm, and is considerably faster. I would love to see him in Atlanta because I have season tickets but would actually hope not to see him for a year, but with ridder ahead of him and smith on the hot seat I don’t see it taking that long. I’d like to see him go to the Seahawks or lions or if a team like the panthers takes him maybe sign a veteran/Derek carr type to a 1 year deal. I guess we’ll see. Wish him luck

[Mojave Gator]

One NFL analyst said that the best place for Richardson to wind up is Seattle. The Seahawks have Geno Smith, who has had a bit of a renaissance under Pete Carroll, and he can likely hang on as the starter long enough for Richardson to develop. When you're the #1 pick you are expected to make an immediate impact, and I believe that there is unanimous agreement here that Richardson is nowhere near ready to be an NFL starting quarterback.

[g8rfan]

Feb 25, 2023 13:44:15 GMT -5 Mojave Gator said:

One NFL analyst said that the best place for Richardson to wind up is Seattle. The Seahawks have Geno Smith, who has had a bit of a renaissance under Pete Carroll, and he can likely hang on as the starter long enough for Richardson to develop. When you're the #1 pick you are expected to make an immediate impact, and I believe that there is unanimous agreement here that Richardson is nowhere near ready to be an NFL starting quarterback.

There was a time when I would have agreed that he was nowhere near ready, but honestly it wouldn’t surprise me if he went out there and did better than we expect. I don’t know what the hell was going on with our offense last season but it was obvious he wasn’t living up to his potential . If he gets in a system that lets him do AR things he might prosper right away. Wherever he gets drafted there is an argument that he’ll be the most most athletically gifted QB in the league.

[Mojave Gator]

Just one man's opinion, but a theory about what was going on with our offense. Right out of the chute, Napier was left with no quarterbacks who were developed in any sense of the word, and only one who had the raw tools to function at a high level against the kind of opposition that we face. This meant that Napier had to develop a quarterback and install a new offensive system simultaneously. Somewhere along the way the staff realized that if AR goes down, we have squat behind him. His running was reeled in to reduce the possibility of injury. Of course, this also greatly reduced the production of the offense, because defenses knew that Richardson wasn't going to take off at the first sign of trouble. Defensive coordinators started exploiting his inexperience in the passing game, and AR made some baffling mistakes - which caused the coaching staff to reel in the offense even further, which lowered our production, wash, rinse and repeat.

I sat through every second of the Las Vegas Bowl, so I have first hand experience of the 2022 offense without AR. Although I believe that Jack Miller did a decent job given the time frame he had to prepare and that he had seen almost no action prior to facing a ranked team in the bowl game, not until the last drive did I get the sense that we might sustain anything long enough to even score points. It was obvious to me that winning the game was off the table shortly after kickoff.

[bimigator]

If we had a losing season with the number 1 overall pick at QB, that says a lot about our coaching staff and/or the supporting cast.

Sounds like AR made himself a ton of money today.

[Mojave Gator]

I watched bits and pieces of the combine. Richardson acquitted himself pretty well, although it is much easier to hit throws when no one is chasing you or sticking their arms in the air in front of you. One draft analysis that I read had him coming here, with pick #7 to the Las Vegas Raiders.

[tapsgator]

Anthony Richardson is the best pure physical QB prospect ever. At this year's combine he was the tallest (6'4.25), heaviest (244), fastest (4.43, 4th fastest ever), most explosive (all time QB records in both jumps at 40.5 and 10'9), with the best arm (60mph 2nd highest ball velocity ever, threw 3 straight passes of 65 yards and a ball 75 yards) in this class. Universal opinion from analysts/scouts is the only guy who may have been more accurate was CJ Stroud and it was close, maybe too close to call.

Ceasar's and MGM have him as the 2nd most likely #1 pick. +300 at MGM, +400 at Caesars.

I knew he was a freak, I didn't know he was king of the freaks, so I was slightly surprised. What is mind blowing to even me (who has always held his throwing in higher esteem than just about anybody) is that NFL people after looking at him throw by throw think he is a better thrower than Cam coming out, think he compares favorably to Josh Allen (who had a slightly higher completion % in college but still mid 50s), and like his processing and pocket manipulation. On the NFL channel broadcast an analyst even said "I know you think because it's Florida he has to have talent around him unlike Wyoming, but there was very little separation all year, they're really down and the play calling did him no favors last year." Huge indictment of Mullen (sans Johnson) and to a lesser extent Napier.

What's odd to me is that we listed a 6'4.25, 244 lbs. guy at 6'3.5 235. Make what you will of not designing more than 3-5 runs a game for a guy who is bigger and faster than Derrick Henry or trying to run a version of the west coast offense with a guy who is more accurate at 40-60 yards than he is 5-10, but why would you lie about his size? I have never seen anybody list their guys smaller than they actually are, it's usually the opposite. Maybe in 10 years Napier will reveal that it was part of his 10 year rebuild plan.

[wahhappen]

Mar 6, 2023 11:39:47 GMT -5 tapsgator said:

Anthony Richardson is the best pure physical QB prospect ever. At this year's combine he was the tallest (6'4.25), heaviest (244), fastest (4.43, 4th fastest ever), most explosive (all time QB records in both jumps at 40.5 and 10'9), with the best arm (60mph 2nd highest ball velocity ever, threw 3 straight passes of 65 yards and a ball 75 yards) in this class. Universal opinion from analysts/scouts is the only guy who may have been more accurate was CJ Stroud and it was close, maybe too close to call.

Ceasar's and MGM have him as the 2nd most likely #1 pick. +300 at MGM, +400 at Caesars.

I knew he was a freak, I didn't know he was king of the freaks, so I was slightly surprised. What is mind blowing to even me (who has always held his throwing in higher esteem than just about anybody) is that NFL people after looking at him throw by throw think he is a better thrower than Cam coming out, think he compares favorably to Josh Allen (who had a slightly higher completion % in college but still mid 50s), and like his processing and pocket manipulation. On the NFL channel broadcast an analyst even said "I know you think because it's Florida he has to have talent around him unlike Wyoming, but there was very little separation all year, they're really down and the play calling did him no favors last year." Huge indictment of Mullen (sans Johnson) and to a lesser extent Napier.

What's odd to me is that we listed a 6'4.25, 244 lbs. guy at 6'3.5 235. Make what you will of not designing more than 3-5 runs a game for a guy who is bigger and faster than Derrick Henry or trying to run a version of the west coast offense with a guy who is more accurate at 40-60 yards than he is 5-10, but why would you lie about his size? I have never seen anybody list their guys smaller than they actually are, it's usually the opposite. Maybe in 10 years Napier will reveal that it was part of his 10 year rebuild plan.

At this point one can only assume part of the plan is to get all LA guys on roster and staff so we can unleash the Cajun attack. This is eerily similar to the year Muschamp had like 6 offensive linemen (or some ridiculously higher than normal number) selected in the draft after a season where we were close to dead last in the nation in passing (again, not sure how bad we were, but we rarely completed a forward pass).

[bimigator]

The buzz coming from the Combine is that Richardson slayed in his one on one interviews with teams as well.

"ESPN senior reporter Jeremy Fowler said Sunday that Richardson's interviews with teams were impressive, and he was comfortable in front of coaches and execs. ESPN draft analyst Matt Miller said last week a handful of scouts said Richardson had the best quarterback interview of the entire 2023 class."

www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35790651/inside-anthony-richardson-2023-nfl-combine/

Apparently it was both their rapport with him and also his overall football knowledge.

I think he'll end up being special if he can stay healthy.

[gatordoll]

Mar 6, 2023 20:35:11 GMT -5 bimigator said:

The buzz coming from the Combine is that Richardson slayed in his one on one interviews with teams as well.

"ESPN senior reporter Jeremy Fowler said Sunday that Richardson's interviews with teams were impressive, and he was comfortable in front of coaches and execs. ESPN draft analyst Matt Miller said last week a handful of scouts said Richardson had the best quarterback interview of the entire 2023 class."

www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35790651/inside-anthony-richardson-2023-nfl-combine/

Apparently it was both their rapport with him and also his overall football knowledge.

I think he'll end up being special if he can stay healthy.

But can he learn to read defenses in the much quicker paced NFL? Not particularly good at that in college. The glass ankle could also be a problem.

[tapsgator]

Mar 7, 2023 3:15:00 GMT -5 gatordoll said:

Mar 6, 2023 20:35:11 GMT -5 bimigator said:

The buzz coming from the Combine is that Richardson slayed in his one on one interviews with teams as well.

"ESPN senior reporter Jeremy Fowler said Sunday that Richardson's interviews with teams were impressive, and he was comfortable in front of coaches and execs. ESPN draft analyst Matt Miller said last week a handful of scouts said Richardson had the best quarterback interview of the entire 2023 class."

www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35790651/inside-anthony-richardson-2023-nfl-combine/

Apparently it was both their rapport with him and also his overall football knowledge.

I think he'll end up being special if he can stay healthy.

But can he learn to read defenses in the much quicker paced NFL? Not particularly good at that in college. The glass ankle could also be a problem.

The scouts like his processing/working through progressions. I will say that in person it was a different animal last year and I thought he was decent at it but certainly not great and probably not good. I'd have given him a 5 out of 10 where on TV it looked like a 2, but it's not like he was throwing into double coverage when guys were running free, sometimes he just picked the guy that was even less open than another guy who wasn't open. I'm surprised that the NFL guys seem to have that graded at like a 7 out of 10, but they do this for a living. Nobody thinks he's ready out of the gate (as expected), but they seem to think he's not that far off and I figured there was a lot to build on, but evidently there's even more there than I thought.

Durability is a good call and the one factor that I think people may be passing over a little quickly. He did make every start this year, so maybe that was a little bit of Mullen not wanting to look stupid for not going to him earlier if/when Richardson blew up because it took him so long to make the move. It wouldn't be the first time a uniquely gifted QB was held back by an egotistical coach and/or Dan Mullen. That was the same guy who couldn't keep Cam invested enough to stay out of trouble in Gainesville and then he and some dipshit backwoods hick of an AD were overseeing the program that tried to rat out Auburn by producing audio tape of their own booster offering Cecil @ 200k. Rocket scientists, glad we caught that lightning in a bottle.

The more you look at it the more sense it makes for him to go top 10, 5, even 1, but it would have to be the right team. Here's why: Anthony Richardson is the only guy in this draft with a skillset to be a top 5 player overall in the league. I actually think the only other guys in this draft with a shot to be top 5 at their positions are Carter (long shot given the character and work ethic concerns and there's a lot of DTs to jump) and Bijuan Robinson (RB shelf life is generally so short though). I love Bryce Young as a player, one of my best friends is his first cousin so I've been hearing about him since he was a Sophomore. I don't think there's any real shot that 3-5 years from now the top 5 in the league are: Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert/Hurts/Jackson/Lawrence/Watson, and Bryce. I really hope I'm wrong there. Personally I wouldn't take him first unless I had or could sign a veteran to start the season, but depending on the situation there is a path where AR is the right pick at 1/1.

[wahhappen]

All of this potential draft news on AR adds to the speculation that Dan Mullen never intended to be at UF for more than 3 years. It is difficult to remember, but we improved significantly almost immediately when Mullen came on board and were headed toward a potentially special season in 2020 until the wheels came off and we imploded epically (mostly due to the defense being so bad). You almost have to try to not bring in recruits at UF. If Mullen had any interest in building a legacy, 2021 should have been the year we put it all together. I mean, Richardson was practically built to run his offensive scheme and should have been ready to go in 2021 had Mullen been paying attention to reality. Instead we’re looking at a poorly developed, raw talent, that could end up being a special QB in the NFL. That is expected when you play QB at Wyoming, Texas Tech, Louisville, Cal, Southern Mississippi, Stanford or Pitt. But to have that kind of talent wasted at UF post 1989 is just about as big of an indictment of the status of our program that I can imagine.

[tapsgator]

Mar 7, 2023 12:58:19 GMT -5 wahhappen said:

All of this potential draft news on AR adds to the speculation that Dan Mullen never intended to be at UF for more than 3 years. It is difficult to remember, but we improved significantly almost immediately when Mullen came on board and were headed toward a potentially special season in 2020 until the wheels came off and we imploded epically (mostly due to the defense being so bad). You almost have to try to not bring in recruits at UF. If Mullen had any interest in building a legacy, 2021 should have been the year we put it all together. I mean, Richardson was practically built to run his offensive scheme and should have been ready to go in 2021 had Mullen been paying attention to reality. Instead we’re looking at a poorly developed, raw talent, that could end up being a special QB in the NFL. That is expected when you play QB at Wyoming, Texas Tech, Louisville, Cal, Southern Mississippi, Stanford or Pitt. But to have that kind of talent wasted at UF post 1989 is just about as big of an indictment of the status of our program that I can imagine.

Agreed, I never really thought about it, but was he taking a dive with that Mizzou press conference in Darth Vader costume post halftime brawl? Or the "recruiting season" bullshit? I just figured he's a gigantic weirdo who thought he was going to get an NFL job and then was pouting, but maybe it's all one in the same.

[Mojave Gator]

Mar 7, 2023 13:29:22 GMT -5 tapsgator said:

Mar 7, 2023 12:58:19 GMT -5 wahhappen said:

All of this potential draft news on AR adds to the speculation that Dan Mullen never intended to be at UF for more than 3 years. It is difficult to remember, but we improved significantly almost immediately when Mullen came on board and were headed toward a potentially special season in 2020 until the wheels came off and we imploded epically (mostly due to the defense being so bad). You almost have to try to not bring in recruits at UF. If Mullen had any interest in building a legacy, 2021 should have been the year we put it all together. I mean, Richardson was practically built to run his offensive scheme and should have been ready to go in 2021 had Mullen been paying attention to reality. Instead we’re looking at a poorly developed, raw talent, that could end up being a special QB in the NFL. That is expected when you play QB at Wyoming, Texas Tech, Louisville, Cal, Southern Mississippi, Stanford or Pitt. But to have that kind of talent wasted at UF post 1989 is just about as big of an indictment of the status of our program that I can imagine.

Agreed, I never really thought about it, but was he taking a dive with that Mizzou press conference in Darth Vader costume post halftime brawl? Or the "recruiting season" bullshit? I just figured he's a gigantic weirdo who thought he was going to get an NFL job and then was pouting, but maybe it's all one in the same.

Only Mullen can answer that question, and I doubt that we would ever get anything honest from him on it, but it would be interesting to know. I also wonder if all of that crap about the NFL was meant to stoke interest, i. e., misinformation thrown out there to make teams believe that other teams were interested, possibly creating a market that wasn't there to begin with. Unfortunately for Mullen, that kind of tactic isn't effective when you're dealing with people who vet and hire coaches for a living, and they are doing it at the professional level in one sport (unlike a college AD, who may have to interview for every sport on campus).

[bimigator]

This has been tapsgator's hypothesis from the very beginning, that Mullen's agent was trying to drum up an offer by spreading rumors about "teams" being "interested".

[tapsgator]

Mar 7, 2023 21:23:08 GMT -5 bimigator said:

This has been tapsgator's hypothesis from the very beginning, that Mullen's agent was trying to drum up an offer by spreading rumors about "teams" being "interested".

Eggzactolutely. Here's the other thing about that, I also think Mullen is too much of a narcissistic egomaniac to grasp that he is not universally liked/highly thought of amongst people in the know. I saw something awhile back that said "playing victim is the worst kind of narcissism." Think back to Mullen just about any Mullen press conference when there was some adversity to address, each and every time it "wasn't my fault, it's (point finger)" and there's a reason he never left Mississippi State despite perpetually throwing his hat in the ring for bigger jobs. He didn't leave until his AD at Mississippi State moved to a destination job. It took a perfect storm, and he did what he always did, rode some decent talent that stayed, solid Xs and Os (on offense anyway), and Brian Johnson to early success, and then tried to parlay that into a better job, reality be damned. He's also really unlikable, even when he was winning it was cringeworthy watching him try to bully the media and get into wars of words with other (better) coaches. He's basically Urban Meyer without the coaching or recruiting ability trying to be Steve Spurrier but lacking the requisite wit and intelligence. For a second there I thought he had changed, he was no longer the guy who called a move to UF from Miss State a "lateral move" and burned bridges at every turn. Shame on me, he never wanted to be in Gainesville or have any allegiance to the school. In his mind it was a stepping stone and his only allegiance is to the (self ascribed) legend of Dan Mullen.

[Mojave Gator]

"Playing victim is the worst kind of narcissism." Interesting take. Some things come to mind about past coaches.

Zook: Blaming things on the "noise in the system" (specifically alluding to FRZ), despite not producing results and making in-game decisions so stupid that someone deliberately trying to throw a game might not have thought of them.

McElwain: Alleging death threats against him, his coaches and his players - just before his team was about to be curb stomped by Georgia. It would have been a violation of his contract for him not to report such threats immediately to the university had they been real.

Muschamp: Got into fights with his own fans, as if they were responsible for his ineptitude. If you are making that much money to coach at the top level of college football, you had better be able to take the heat that goes along with it when things go south.