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Post by Rock Gator on Mar 28, 2023 7:11:32 GMT -5
Here's some numbers from the Combine:
Player / Ht / Wt / Arm / Hand / 40 / Vertical / Broad
AR / 6’4” / 244 / 32.75 / 10.5 / 4.43 / 40.5 / 10’9
SB / 5’11” / 192 / 28.875 / 10 / 4.67 / 33.5 / 9’10
And Bennett supposedly upped his draft stock with these results. So you can see why AR has NFL scouts drooling.
One article I read mentioned in a roundabout way what we've always said - Bennett is working with the best players on the field *every game* so his stats/results are looked at with a jaundiced eye. AR was working with well, not the best players, so his numbers are looked at like an "incomplete", they just don't know what they'll get. For reference, Bryce Young's biggest knock is his size, and SB is 12 lbs lighter with shorter arms.
Best I can tell, AR is first round, SB probably fourth round. Will be interesting to watch these two in the league.
RG
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Post by tapsgator on Mar 28, 2023 12:15:47 GMT -5
Bennett actually threw the ball well at the combine tying Levis in ball velocity. Which is good for him because shorter QBs have to have bigger arms. I watched him play way too often and I think he's Chase Daniel if he works hard and Manzeil if he becomes a trust fund party kid. I can't tell which he'll be although I think him showing up in shape and prepared for the combine along with the fact that he's older (Manzell was out of football by 25 I think) bodes better. I think his problem is going to be 2 fold:
1) 4.67. I haven't looked but can almost guarantee that his 10 yard split was good and his top speed was average because he's shorter which means quicker versus a Daniel Jones & Josh Allen who can play faster with a slower 40 time. Plus DBs and even smaller LBers make business decisions with those guys, nobody is scared of Stetson. 4.67 front loaded doesn't let you outrun NFL DEs much less LBers and DEs. 192 that can't pull away from anybody ends badly historically. Edit: 10 yard split was 89% historical QB and overall 40 was 81%.
2) I don't know if his arm is good enough to throw off platform/off his back foot. He needs a runway and when he has it (which he always did at UGA) and can step into throws he can rip it pretty good. Get him on his back foot and he can't drive the ball and will throw some ducks. I don't think he'll have a clean enough pocket to throw into NFL windows.
I've never liked the guy, but begrudgingly, he did a good job in college. Even more begrudgingly, he received much better coaching and development at UGA than Richardson did at Florida. It's not close. He's also 7 months older than Justin Herbert, 2 months younger than Lamar Jackson, 15 months older than Hurts, and so on. I'm going to guess that at least 20 guys younger than him will start a game next year. His ceiling is pretty low. I don't know why anybody would draft him in the first 4 rounds, but teams need QBs I guess.
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Post by tapsgator on Mar 29, 2023 11:00:49 GMT -5
On the complete opposite end of the spectrum, I think Richardson will go 3, most likely to the Raiders, but possibly to the Colts. I think both could work, but the Raiders would probably be a better fit because they have Jimmy G for this year. His physical tools are one of a kind, literally, insiders almost universally say that he was the best interview at the combine, and experts say his game tape is actually pretty good from a read/progression standpoint. I think Carolina has to give him serious consideration at 1/1 which I (as an unapologetic fanboy) would have thought was crazy 3 months ago. End of the day he's the only QB in this class with a top 5 QB in the league ceiling. He may never reach that standard but he's the only one with a chance.
If/when he goes in the top 10 (I really think top 5 is a lock) people are going to be pissed for some reason I really can't understand. Kid went from basically homeless and taking care of his younger brother to staying in Gainesville as a low 4 star, to staying through backing up someone who was clearly less talented, to staying when a new coach with no track record of sending kids to the league got the HC gig and didn't hire an OC, to being a scapegoat with the fans/coaches, to leaving on good terms rather than entering the portal, starting a bidding war, and most likely putting up ridiculous numbers with a better (relative) supporting cast. It's like The Blindside but without rich boosters adopting a kid and sending him to their alma matter. I guess you could hold the speeding ticket and the backflip injury (some of which I think was probably boredom having to watch a lesser player shit the bed) against him, but it just seems like a lot of angst for a seemingly good kid that does the vast majority of stuff the right way.
I've got friends that have said he wasn't going to get drafted to it won't be first round to the "they're making the biggest mistake of their life, they should watch the tape!" Intelligent people. True Gators. I just don't get it. Taking a shot on the best physical QB prospect we've seen who started 12 games under coaches who were disinterested and/or getting on the job training may not pan out, but it's not a mistake as long as you know what you're getting into. NFL coaches and GMs get paid a lot of money, they probably have reviewed the film.
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Post by g8rfan on Mar 31, 2023 6:39:27 GMT -5
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Post by tapsgator on Mar 31, 2023 11:24:30 GMT -5
He just keeps getting more and more freakish. I remember thinking there was no way in Hell he was going to be better than Emory Jones because recruiting services don't miss that bad on QBs. Then it was obvious he was better than Emory even in small flashes but I figured there must be a semi-rational reason that Mullen wasn't going to him to get him experience and even if it was partly his ego/inability to admit he's wrong there must be some validity to it. Then we saw the flashes last year and I thought he was a top 5 physical freak I'd ever seen play QB and would sneak into the first round just on potential, then the combine where he basically declared himself King Freak (he's the only player to ever have a perfect athletic profile score since combine results were recorded starting in 1987), and somehow I really don't know how, he topped that performance at the Pro Day. I hope he falls to Seattle or Detroit or a team that sits him for a full year, but I'm not so sure he won't go 1/1. He's that much of a unicorn. Warts and all it might make sense to take him first, because IF he figures it out (HUGE IF) there's never been anybody like him. |
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Post by Mojave Gator on Mar 31, 2023 13:51:19 GMT -5
He appears to be comfortably within the first round of the NFL Draft. The question is where he lands. There is talk locally that the Raiders may trade up to get a QB in this current class, and Richardson is definitely on their radar. They just signed Jimmy Garoppolo, so he wouldn't be expected to start imkmediately.
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Post by Mojave Gator on Apr 5, 2023 15:27:32 GMT -5
The Raiders are having Richardson in sometime this week.
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Apr 14, 2023 14:46:38 GMT -5
Richardson writes letter to all GM's prior to draft.......... LINK |
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Post by Mojave Gator on Apr 15, 2023 14:54:06 GMT -5
On the complete opposite end of the spectrum, I think Richardson will go 3, most likely to the Raiders, but possibly to the Colts. I think both could work, but the Raiders would probably be a better fit because they have Jimmy G for this year. The Raiders had him in about a week ago, and they came away impressed. Would not be surprised to see them trade up and take AR. They are in a unique situation, which would suit AR perfectly. They need a QB, but not immediately. He could learn behind Garoppolo for a couple of years and then take over. Doesn't hurt that they have possibly the best WR in the game in Davante Adams for him to throw to. |
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Post by tapsgator on Apr 15, 2023 22:39:35 GMT -5
Richardson writes letter to all GM's prior to draft.......... LINKNot a bad move given the ridiculous and frankly racist Jamarcus Russell (big and good arm, horrible athlete, low character, struggled with weight and alcoholism/drinking NyQuil) and Vince young (basically illiterate) and confirms that he gets it. It really amazes me that his backstory isn’t better known. He would throw his little brother on his bike and they’d going looking for dinner and a place to stay in Miami and then Gainesville) and he went from basically kinda mid-level prospect until camp circuit after his junior year to 4 star to the first person to score a perfect athletic score at the combine and reportedly the best interview in a pretty damn polished QB class. Oh yeah and he’s 20 and has had at least a 3.0 since his freshman year of highschool. None of that happens without high character and next level work ethic. Never seen so many people want to bet and root against a kid like that. Not sure why, I guess because at times he looked like a kid who had started one game coming into the season and was on his 3rd OC in 3 years who was used to calling plays in the sunbelt after a dipshit who was pouting because the nfl didn’t come calling was grossly negligent in his development for his first 2 years? Can anybody explain that to me? I wish he had come back, I thought he should have although evidently I was wrong, but I’d never root against this kid regardless of where he went to school much less when he came and stayed at UF |
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Post by Rock Gator on Apr 16, 2023 10:43:18 GMT -5
Just saw an article on Bennett that said he may go undrafted.
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Post by Mojave Gator on Apr 17, 2023 2:35:58 GMT -5
Just saw an article on Bennett that said he may go undrafted. I see Bennett going somewhere as a non roster invitee. |
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Post by tapsgator on Apr 17, 2023 10:30:40 GMT -5
As crazy as it sounds, if Bennett doesn't get drafted or goes after the 4th it will be because of character not physical skillset. Physically he's pretty damn close to Johnny Manziel with a little less talent and slightly lower substance abuse issue. I think Manziel is hurting him and he's hurting himself in the interviews because his measurables weren't that bad at combine and if they thought he was a worker they'd be thinking Brock Purdy not Manziel.
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Post by Rock Gator on Apr 20, 2023 16:31:49 GMT -5
Word on the street is that if you put him on an NFL team where every player on his team is better than the guy on the other side of the line, then he could be pretty good. Apparently there is some substance to this rumor.
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Post by Mojave Gator on Apr 26, 2023 14:50:56 GMT -5
All of the speculation ends beginning tomorrow. There will only be 31 picks in the first round because the Dolphins forfeited theirs over tampering charges involving Sean Payton and Tom Brady.
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Post by g8rfan on Apr 26, 2023 16:09:51 GMT -5
If anyone is interested NFL Network is showing Florida’s Pro Day right now. Just started at 5pm Eastern.
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Post by tapsgator on Apr 27, 2023 12:23:57 GMT -5
I'm really hoping that Richardson lands with a good organization where he can sit for at least a year, and unless Vegas, Seattle, or Detroit are too tempted to risk letting him out of the top 10 or Tennessee moves up I think his best bet is to fall to 18-20 (Lions 2nd pick, Bucs, Seahawks 2nd pick) or Baltimore at 22 or Minnesota at 23. So I'll be kinda rooting for a bit of a free fall because the kid deserves a real shot at success. This is from the rumor mill: "Early in the 2023 NFL Draft process, sources with Tampa Bay really liked Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson. They also placed a good amount a lot of Richardson's shortcomings on the Florida coaching staff, saying that the new Gators staff did not know how to use Richardson well and did not do a good job of developing his incredible talent. The Bucs probably won't select Mayer in the 2023 NFL Draft because of other needs, and Richardson most likely won't make it to them at pick No. 19. Richardson might intrigue Tampa Bay, but the team may not be willing to give up a package of picks to move up for him." source: walterfootball.com/nflhotpress/article/2023-NFL-Draft-Week-Rumors-TuesdayIn fairness to the current staff, their predecessors not only didn't know how to use him they didn't even play him and they were more instrumental in his development or lack thereof. |
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Post by bimigator on Apr 27, 2023 20:36:33 GMT -5
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Post by tapsgator on Apr 28, 2023 12:32:23 GMT -5
Colts aren't a bad fit at all, I thought Houston was going to be Houston and pass on Stroud and leave him for the Colts which is the main reason I didn't list them. They have Steichen who worked with Herbert as a rookie starter and then Hurts in his second year (first as a starter pretty successful) and 3rd (where he was an MVP candidate) and was also smart enough to bring in Brian Johnson as a QB coach when he went to the Iggles. I watched a lot of football last year and the only QB I saw that the ball jumped out of his hand comparably to Richardson was Herbert (I didn't see Allen or Mahomes but we saw some pretty decent throwers between Peach Bowl, Kickoff classic, OCP, UF-FSU, and 10 NFL games), and Richardson is bigger and faster than Hurts. I think the big question is when do they go to him, Minshew is serviceable in the mentor/start the season role, and Steichen is probably as good a coach as any to make the call as far as turning over the keys. AR is still the ultimate boom or bust, that's impossible to change, but there were certainly worse places he could have gone.
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Post by tapsgator on Apr 28, 2023 12:55:42 GMT -5
I take it all back, totally get why people would root against this guy, because God forbid your arm chair analysis isn't better than the guys who get paid to do it: "Richardson balanced football and basketball practices with caring for his brother, Corey Carter, 13, after school while his mother, LaShawnda Cleare, sometimes juggled three jobs. Richardson rarely complained and said his mother’s situation instilled a strong work ethic in him." "But Thompson said he did not realize how much pressure Richardson had been carrying until after that loss to Kentucky. He spotted Richardson playing catch with a group of children afterward in a Ben Hill Griffin Stadium parking lot in Gainesville long after the cars had moved. The next day, the quarterback called Thompson to vent. He apologized for his poor performance because he felt he had let down those who supported him." www.nytimes.com/2023/04/25/sports/football/anthony-richardson-nfl-draft.html#:~:text=Richardson%20balanced%20football%20and%20basketball,Cleare%2C%20sometimes%20juggled%20three%20jobs. Seriously how does anybody, much less a Gator, root against this kid? |
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Post by Mojave Gator on Apr 29, 2023 19:01:55 GMT -5
Bennett was finally drafted, fourth round to the Rams.
They must like Georgia quarterbacks.
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Post by bimigator on May 1, 2023 21:43:55 GMT -5
I take it all back, totally get why people would root against this guy, because God forbid your arm chair analysis isn't better than the guys who get paid to do it: "Richardson balanced football and basketball practices with caring for his brother, Corey Carter, 13, after school while his mother, LaShawnda Cleare, sometimes juggled three jobs. Richardson rarely complained and said his mother’s situation instilled a strong work ethic in him." "But Thompson said he did not realize how much pressure Richardson had been carrying until after that loss to Kentucky. He spotted Richardson playing catch with a group of children afterward in a Ben Hill Griffin Stadium parking lot in Gainesville long after the cars had moved. The next day, the quarterback called Thompson to vent. He apologized for his poor performance because he felt he had let down those who supported him." www.nytimes.com/2023/04/25/sports/football/anthony-richardson-nfl-draft.html#:~:text=Richardson%20balanced%20football%20and%20basketball,Cleare%2C%20sometimes%20juggled%20three%20jobs. Seriously how does anybody, much less a Gator, root against this kid? He seems like a genuinely great kid. I'm hoping Indy develops him and works with his talent instead of trying to shoehorn him into an offense that doesn't make use of his best attributes. Sounds like they have a team in place to do that. Good for him, I hope he buys his mom everything she's ever wanted. |
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Post by Mojave Gator on May 3, 2023 20:23:18 GMT -5
I take it all back, totally get why people would root against this guy, because God forbid your arm chair analysis isn't better than the guys who get paid to do it: "Richardson balanced football and basketball practices with caring for his brother, Corey Carter, 13, after school while his mother, LaShawnda Cleare, sometimes juggled three jobs. Richardson rarely complained and said his mother’s situation instilled a strong work ethic in him." "But Thompson said he did not realize how much pressure Richardson had been carrying until after that loss to Kentucky. He spotted Richardson playing catch with a group of children afterward in a Ben Hill Griffin Stadium parking lot in Gainesville long after the cars had moved. The next day, the quarterback called Thompson to vent. He apologized for his poor performance because he felt he had let down those who supported him." www.nytimes.com/2023/04/25/sports/football/anthony-richardson-nfl-draft.html#:~:text=Richardson%20balanced%20football%20and%20basketball,Cleare%2C%20sometimes%20juggled%20three%20jobs. Seriously how does anybody, much less a Gator, root against this kid? He seems like a genuinely great kid. I'm hoping Indy develops him and works with his talent instead of trying to shoehorn him into an offense that doesn't make use of his best attributes. Sounds like they have a team in place to do that. Good for him, I hope he buys his mom everything she's ever wanted. I'm sure that Indianapolis did their homework, and I doubt that they drafted AR with the thought of trying to make him a pocket passer. I hope that he does well. Just not against Jacksonville. |
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Post by Rock Gator on May 14, 2023 9:54:17 GMT -5
BTW, speaking of Bennett... "He beat all those QBs who were drafted above him!" (every Georgia fan, followed by a mean face) This of course, makes our argument - he's good when his team is great. It's a reset when you hit the NFL.
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Post by Mojave Gator on May 14, 2023 13:53:59 GMT -5
It was reported that the Raiders tried to trade up in the first round, presumably to take Richardson.
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Post by tapsgator on May 15, 2023 11:16:33 GMT -5
It was reported that the Raiders tried to trade up in the first round, presumably to take Richardson. Seahawks were going to take him at 5. Guessing both of those teams were bummed when the Will Levis to colts or stroud dropping pats to 4 rumors turned out not to be true |
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