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Post by SoTxCaiman on Sept 21, 2023 13:07:38 GMT -5
After another disappointing week, this time with 2 blocked kicks resulting in a kicker change, one ridiculous shanked punt and 2 other just plain bad punts, plus an offsides on the opening kick of the second half, it just seems to me that special teams have become special enough to have their own thread. Hell they don't have a coach they might as well have a thread!
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Post by tapsgator on Sept 21, 2023 14:17:53 GMT -5
They're game changers!
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Post by gatordoll on Sept 21, 2023 15:22:07 GMT -5
Did we use a different kicker for the last FG?
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Sept 21, 2023 15:26:11 GMT -5
Yes, First extra point and first FG were both blocked and then they benched #1 and went with #2 the rest of the day.
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Sept 21, 2023 15:36:51 GMT -5
This may be the single worst resume I have ever seen as far as accomplishments in area of concern......... really RDB?
4th in the Sunbelt top half of the American Athletic Conf NAIA - 20th in punt return and 30th in kick return
This just screams hire me, hire me! Who did we have to beat out for his services? No wonder they don't let him hang around on gameday.
CHRIS COUCH TITLE GameChanger Coordinator
Chris Couch enters his second season with the Gators after being named GameChanger coordinator ahead of the 2022 season. As an analyst, his role focuses on the special teams unit. A native of Milledgeville, Ga., Couch spent the 2021 season with Billy Napier at Louisiana as UL’s special teams coordinator and the director of quality control & analytics. The Ragin’ Cajuns ranked 15th nationally in punting average and fourth in the Sun Belt Conference in kick return yardage during Couch’s lone season in Lafayette. Prior to joining the Ragin’ Cajuns, Couch spent five seasons at Tulane (2016-20), where he worked as the special teams analyst and recruiting coordinator. During his last three seasons at Tulane, the Green Wave ranked in the top half of the American Athletic Conference and top-50 nationally in both kick and punt returns. Prior to Tulane, Couch served as a special teams coordinator and linebackers coach at Point University during the 2015 season, helping the Skyhawks to a 9-3 overall record, a perfect 5-0 conference record and their first-ever NAIA playoff appearance. Among the NAIA national leaders, the Skyhawks ranked third in net punting, 20th in punt return yardage and 30th in kickoff return yardage. Before joining Point University, Couch worked as a defensive graduate assistant at Georgia Southern. He assisted with linebackers in 2014 and defensive tackles in 2013. During his stint at Georgia Southern, he was part of a perfect 8-0 Sun Belt Conference record in 2014, while assisting in the coaching of future NFL players Edwin Jackson, Antwoine Williams and Ironhead Gallon.
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Post by tapsgator on Sept 22, 2023 10:42:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean he sounds overqualified to just be coaching special teams, "Special Teams Coach" calls to mind a fiery meathead who convinces guys to run through walls because it could be that 1% that pushes us to victory, remember Tebow firing up the kick-off team? That kinda guy. That's not part of the process, there's no "meticulous attention to detail" or "sustainability" to firing kids up to knock somebody on their ass. That just won't do in the Napier Army. We need an analyst who analyzes stuff and puts it into the process with sustainability and unwavering confidence. You know a guy who can double as a director in charge of quality control and analytics? Right? That's a deal there man. I just don't know how he finds enough hours in the day to do all the analytics associated with covering and returning kickoffs and having all 11 guys wear different numbers. He probably needs an assistant or 6.
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Post by wahhappen on Sept 22, 2023 11:30:27 GMT -5
I can understand the hesitation in having him on the sideline considering he is from GA. Make him prove his loyalty first.
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Post by tapsgator on Sept 22, 2023 19:02:40 GMT -5
I can understand the hesitation in having him on the sideline considering he is from GA. Make him prove his loyalty first. Yeah but where did he go to middle school?
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Post by wahhappen on Sept 23, 2023 21:12:10 GMT -5
I can understand the hesitation in having him on the sideline considering he is from GA. Make him prove his loyalty first. Yeah but where did he go to middle school? Touché. It is possible he used to pick up the kicking tee after kickoffs somewhere near Gainesville in the early 2000’s.
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Post by tapsgator on Sept 25, 2023 15:05:37 GMT -5
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Post by g8rfan on Sept 25, 2023 16:46:05 GMT -5
Oh man those comments on red zone production are rich considering they play calling down there. He also said something in his post game about wanting to have at least one game changing play on special teams per game. C’mon man you can’t possibly lack self awareness on that level can you?
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Post by wahhappen on Sept 25, 2023 22:48:49 GMT -5
Yeah, no need to be concerned. He probably got that mentality from his time with Alabama. You know, Nick Saban is typically lackadaisical when it comes to the finer details. And, also, we did win against Charlotte so it’s all good.
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Sept 25, 2023 23:08:14 GMT -5
We are getting so good at this Special Teams thing we can now do it with only 10 guys! Talk about progress! Most of, if not all of the top 10 guys still neeed 11.
🐊💪
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Post by wahhappen on Sept 26, 2023 7:42:41 GMT -5
This might sound like a joke, but I am about 90% serious with this. If we are not going to have a dedicated special teams coach on game day, I say we let Armstrong take the reins. If nothing else, I think he would have them fired up and at least enough players on the field or just the right amount, and not 12.
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Post by tapsgator on Sept 26, 2023 7:44:41 GMT -5
Oh man those comments on red zone production are rich considering they play calling down there. He also said something in his post game about wanting to have at least one game changing play on special teams per game. C’mon man you can’t possibly lack self awareness on that level can you? I honestly don't know. I'm starting to think he's a cyborg programmed with a remedial word of the day calendar and certain questions get certain answers but they just arbitrarily change the words and sequencing. Yeah, no need to be concerned. He probably got that mentality from his time with Alabama. You know, Nick Saban is typically lackadaisical when it comes to the finer details. And, also, we did win against Charlotte so it’s all good. Or perhaps this is the problem, he has no idea what the cliches he espouses actually mean. So he hears Saban or Smart say something like "meticulous attention to detail" and it triggers a Pavlovian response where his inner-child thinks "that sounds cool. When coaches make cool sounding words they also win. Me make cooll sounding words." He did grow up in Chatsworth, GA. No offense to the fine people of Chatsworth, I've worked a couple cases there and they are good solid people, but maybe 35 years ago a young Billy (whose hair looked exactly like it does today) at the 4th grade spelling bee said "can you use that in a sentence?" and the reply was "the process was implemented with meticulous attention to detail that was all about sustainability and consistency standpoints that led to progress," and his life changed forever. We are getting so good at this Special Teams thing we can now do it with only 10 guys! Talk about progress! Most of, if not all of the top 10 guys still neeed 11. 🐊💪 Alright I think we have a winner, RDB is playing chess while everybody else is playing checkers. Sometimes you don't use a return man, and when you do that in the way we can do things that--------you know we can't--------it's just, man. But then when you sustainably implement a process where consistently you make a change to commit to the detail of the progress of having 11 guys on the field and constantly evaluate how to have them make their jersey numbers different, that's a deal man. Right? Yup, I feel pretty good about where this thing is headed.
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Post by tapsgator on Sept 26, 2023 7:50:58 GMT -5
This might sound like a joke, but I am about 90% serious with this. If we are not going to have a dedicated special teams coach on game day, I say we let Armstrong take the reins. If nothing else, I think he would have them fired up and at least enough players on the field or just the right amount, and not 12. Couldn't agree more which is crazy because I Fing hated the hire. Hated it even more as Desmond Watson played 20+ snaps and Prince ran around in coverage against Utah, but then something magical happened, he made these crazy out of the box things called adjustments. I think the Defense will take a beating against better QBs especially dual threats and the offense may leave them on the field too long, but I don't think they'll get beat by the same gameplan week after week, the DC's position group (LBers) won't be the worst coached on the field (really in the country), and there won't be unexplainable mental lapses. That will be huge progress.
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Post by soflaisgatorcountry on Sept 28, 2023 13:08:51 GMT -5
It is unacceptable for the ST Unit to be this bad and even worse that its the result of an out of the box "Game Changer" creation that no other program utilizes.
AArmstrong looks to be the guy who will fix the Defensive issues that this program had. Thats good however OC and ST Coach are still the 2 other major issues and we honestly dont know if Napier will ever address them.
IF Napier fails at Fla it will be because of these two things. Hopefully hes willing to look in the mirror and make those adjustments.
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Nov 27, 2023 12:52:22 GMT -5
In another instalment of "Really, we have a coach, he just isn't allowed to coach on game days".....
FSU fake punt from their own 30. Snap to the up-man, run off tackle left, he goes un-touched for 25 yards (while running straight upright with both hands and arms wrapped around the ball).
But no wait, a quick whistle for delay of game bails out the special team gaff and FSU has to punt. You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried.
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Post by tapsgator on Nov 27, 2023 13:16:54 GMT -5
In another instalment of "Really, we have a coach, he just isn't allowed to coach on game days"..... FSU fake punt from their own 30. Snap to the up-man, run off tackle left, he goes un-touched for 25 yards (while running straight upright with both hands and arms wrapped around the ball). But no wait, a quick whistle for delay of game bails out the special team gaff and FSU has to punt. You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried. Serious question: if they run the exact same play out of the delay of game timeout what % chance do you give us of stopping it?
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Post by tapsgator on Nov 27, 2023 13:17:37 GMT -5
It is unacceptable for the ST Unit to be this bad and even worse that its the result of an out of the box "Game Changer" creation that no other program utilizes. AArmstrong looks to be the guy who will fix the Defensive issues that this program had. Thats good however OC and ST Coach are still the 2 other major issues and we honestly dont know if Napier will ever address them. IF Napier fails at Fla it will be because of these two things. Hopefully hes willing to look in the mirror and make those adjustments. I just woke up from a 2 month nap. I'm assuming he fixed this. Right?
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Post by g8rfan on Nov 27, 2023 14:00:59 GMT -5
In another instalment of "Really, we have a coach, he just isn't allowed to coach on game days"..... FSU fake punt from their own 30. Snap to the up-man, run off tackle left, he goes un-touched for 25 yards (while running straight upright with both hands and arms wrapped around the ball). But no wait, a quick whistle for delay of game bails out the special team gaff and FSU has to punt. You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried. Serious question: if they run the exact same play out of the delay of game timeout what % chance do you give us of stopping it? Somewhere around zero. But the real humor in that play was that FSU didn’t even try to disguise it. It was the most obvious fake punt I’ve ever seen and we were completely fooled by it. I mean it looked like the up man walked up to the line and audibled into the fake. Not a single defender pursued. Not one.
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Nov 27, 2023 14:39:34 GMT -5
In another instalment of "Really, we have a coach, he just isn't allowed to coach on game days"..... FSU fake punt from their own 30. Snap to the up-man, run off tackle left, he goes un-touched for 25 yards (while running straight upright with both hands and arms wrapped around the ball). But no wait, a quick whistle for delay of game bails out the special team gaff and FSU has to punt. You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried. Serious question: if they run the exact same play out of the delay of game timeout what % chance do you give us of stopping it? I was sitting in front of my TV having that exact thought and almost hoping they would try it again, just because I knew we had zero chance of stopping it and perhaps it would open some eyes as to how real and deep our issues are.
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Post by soflaisgatorcountry on Nov 27, 2023 18:38:39 GMT -5
It is unacceptable for the ST Unit to be this bad and even worse that its the result of an out of the box "Game Changer" creation that no other program utilizes. AArmstrong looks to be the guy who will fix the Defensive issues that this program had. Thats good however OC and ST Coach are still the 2 other major issues and we honestly dont know if Napier will ever address them. IF Napier fails at Fla it will be because of these two things. Hopefully hes willing to look in the mirror and make those adjustments. I just woke up from a 2 month nap. I'm assuming he fixed this. Right? Well, i wrote that after the Tenn game. A broken clock is correct twice a day, i'll say that was one of AArmstrong's correct times of the day lol
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Post by soflaisgatorcountry on Nov 27, 2023 18:41:11 GMT -5
Serious question: if they run the exact same play out of the delay of game timeout what % chance do you give us of stopping it? I was sitting in front of my TV having that exact thought and almost hoping they would try it again, just because I knew we had zero chance of stopping it and perhaps it would open some eyes as to how real and deep our issues are. I even though Norvell might try another fake later in the game. I think it would've worked too smh
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Jan 2, 2024 13:00:43 GMT -5
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Post by wahhappen on Jan 2, 2024 14:30:09 GMT -5
We obviously don’t care about special teams. If this guy is the third best punter in the country coming out of high school, then a.) why is he not getting a scholarship? And b.) why would he go to UF other than the sheer volume of punts he will likely get to put on tape?
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Post by Mojave Gator on Jan 3, 2024 19:56:29 GMT -5
To add to this, how would an incoming high school player know that special teams will be OK with no changes? Did he even watch any of our games last season?
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Post by wahhappen on Jan 3, 2024 20:52:47 GMT -5
To add to this, how would an incoming high school player know that special teams will be OK with no changes? Did he even watch any of our games last season? Honestly, thinking about it more deeply, this whole story seems made up.
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Post by tapsgator on Jan 4, 2024 13:35:33 GMT -5
To add to this, how would an incoming high school player know that special teams will be OK with no changes? Did he even watch any of our games last season? Honestly, thinking about it more deeply, this whole story seems made up. It does, but so does having an administrative assistant and/or a player in charge of special teams complete with a secret word of the day for game winning field goals. I keep hearing that we're definitely getting an OC, but I see no OC.
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Jan 4, 2024 16:53:01 GMT -5
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