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Post by SoTxCaiman on Sept 24, 2022 14:53:48 GMT -5
Should have taken the points. 4th and 2 is a tough yardage down in the red zone
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Sept 24, 2022 15:00:10 GMT -5
Turnover helps....
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Post by g8rfan on Sept 24, 2022 15:32:29 GMT -5
Good now everyone can stop talking about AR nOt hAviNg aNy tD PasSes. Team looking solid so far. Great catch and run by Zipperererer
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Sept 24, 2022 15:37:00 GMT -5
Ouch, total breakdown of coverage.
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Post by g8rfan on Sept 24, 2022 15:46:28 GMT -5
Someone let Napier know that you can run the ball outside of the tackles.
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Sept 24, 2022 16:19:36 GMT -5
2 big Tenn passes are the difference so far. First one was a gift. Second one we just got beat by a back up wideout playing in place of the suspended starter. đ
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Post by wahhappen on Sept 24, 2022 16:26:23 GMT -5
So frustrating to give up that TD before the half, but the offense seems to have its mojo back. And AR is playing with more confidence
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Post by g8rfan on Sept 24, 2022 16:44:27 GMT -5
The defense canât seem to get a stop.
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Post by g8rfan on Sept 24, 2022 17:40:43 GMT -5
Our pass D is hot garbage.
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Sept 24, 2022 17:41:17 GMT -5
Will someone please wake Trey Dean up?
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Post by Mojave Gator on Sept 24, 2022 18:02:34 GMT -5
What was the point of going for two down 11?
This is not a good team, especially defensively.
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Post by g8rfan on Sept 24, 2022 18:05:25 GMT -5
What was the point of going for two down 11? I donât get that at all. |
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Post by bimigator on Sept 24, 2022 19:36:40 GMT -5
Plenty of negatives, but on the plus side (a) we still had a shot at the end and (b) Richardson put up over 500 yards of offense in a hostile environment with no interceptions.
*edit: I looked at the final stats and saw that he did have an INT. I was watching sporadically and must have missed that.
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Post by Mojave Gator on Sept 24, 2022 22:44:07 GMT -5
Plenty of negatives, but on the plus side (a) we still had a shot at the end and (b) Richardson out up over 500 yards of offense in a hostile environment with no interceptions. *edit: I looked at the final stats and saw that he did have an INT. I was watching sporadically and must have missed that. The interception was on the final play when he was heaving toward the end zone. I hardly count that. |
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Post by gatorgibson on Sept 25, 2022 5:05:40 GMT -5
Closer than I thought it would be. Especially after seeing how usf got throttled earlier in the day. AR seemed to find some confidence and played great, hope he keeps it!And them damn penalties!
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Post by wahhappen on Sept 25, 2022 8:43:42 GMT -5
The defense canât seem to get a stop. We have forced one punt in the last two games. Is Todd Grantham still on staff? |
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Post by Rock Gator on Sept 25, 2022 9:54:11 GMT -5
The interception was on the final play when he was heaving toward the end zone. I hardly count that. It goes in the books but real football people wouldn't bother with it. |
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Post by g8rfan on Sept 25, 2022 16:36:07 GMT -5
The defense canât seem to get a stop. We have forced one punt in the last two games. Is Todd Grantham still on staff? The lack of talent on D is obvious. Hopefully they recruit that side of the ball hard. Thereâs Miller and then everyone else. Cox has flashes but meh. Our secondary is awful which could be a byproduct of no pass rush but there are receivers open all over the place which leads me to believe theyâre just not good. |
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Post by tapsgator on Sept 25, 2022 21:22:41 GMT -5
Even in his 6th season and his 4th number Trey dean still canât play. I feel like maybe he doesnât understand football
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Post by tapsgator on Sept 25, 2022 21:25:10 GMT -5
Also, in the last 2 games Gervon Dexter has 1 tackle. Desmond Watson has been more impactful. Thatâs difficult to say it very true
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Post by Rock Gator on Sept 26, 2022 15:13:41 GMT -5
Even in his 6th season and his 4th number Trey dean still canât play. I feel like maybe he doesnât understand football There seems to be agreement. This is from on3. I like that CBN's not throwing the guy under the bus, but he needs to have less PT if he's going to keep screwing up like this. GAINESVILLE, Fla. â The Gators had a pair of glaring busted coverages in their 38-33 loss to Tennessee on Saturday. On the Volsâ first touchdown drive of the game, wide receiver Bru McCoy was uncovered and reeled in a 70-yard reception. And after Floridaâs red-zone fumble in the fourth quarter, UT tight end Jacob Warren was left wide open for a 45-yard catch-and-run. Following the game, UF coach Billy Napier said he wanted to look at the film before commenting on the communication breakdowns in the secondary. Napier addressed those issues during his Monday press conference. âWhen we watch the defensive tape, itâs simple. Itâs one player not doing what heâs supposed to do quite often. Itâs a guy busting the coverage,â Napier said. âWe gave up explosive plays in the game as a result of mental errors.â Florida starting safety Trey Dean III was the culprit on the busted assignments, letting McCoy and Warren run past him both times without covering them. Those two plays accounted for a third of Hendon Hookerâs total passing yards. Dean did not take the field on the next series after Tennesseeâs first touchdown drive, but still played the fourth-most snaps on defense. He earned the second-worst grade among Florida defenders, according to Pro Football Focus. Although Deanâs miscues were costly and obvious, Napier mentioned Monday that other defensive breakdowns happened during the game, such as players in the wrong pass rush lane or misfitting a run. Only two other safeties have seen action behind starters Dean and Rashad Torrence II. True freshman Kamari Wilson is at 47 snaps through four games, while Donovan McMillon has played just one defensive snap this season. Gators Online asked Napier to evaluate the play of his safeties on Monday and how the position needs to improve moving forward. âI think that secondary, in particular, is a position, much like our entire team, where we play well at times but weâre a little bit inconsistent at times,â Napier said. âSometimes the magnifying lens gets put on certain plays or certain situations as they follow the ball, but I do think that theyâre much like every position on our team. They do a lot of things well, but weâre looking for more consistency. âWeâve got to do the simple things well. Thereâs a dozen plays in that game where Florida beats Florida, if that makes sense. Weâve always taken great pride in being a team that doesnât give the opponent anything. Youâre going to have to earn every inch that you get when you play our team, right? âWeâre still not there. Weâre still learning our systems. Weâre still learning how to adjust to playing different systems. I think thereâs a lot of repetition and growth that needs to take place to be the type of football team we want to be.â |
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Post by Rock Gator on Sept 27, 2022 6:35:22 GMT -5
What was the point of going for two down 11? I donât get that at all. I was yelling at my TV! I saw this chart later, and listened to CBN's press conference and it makes more sense to me now.  |
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Post by tapsgator on Sept 27, 2022 9:41:17 GMT -5
I hate that chart. At it's core I know that the numbers can be supported, and generally I like analytics, but the over-reliance on them seems to hurt more than it helps. I know we were on the road, etc., but it's not like we had been lights out on short yardage and in the red zone. If we were blowing them off the ball and could run at will it would have been one thing, but where you are consistently going to 4th down (meaning you aren't converting third downs) and as a team you're averaging 3 yards a carry I think you should kick.
That said, even when I disagree with the decision at least there's a method to the madness these days. Unlike, oh for instance, giving a guy who is starting in the NFL as a rookie less than 10 carries per game when your passing game is a joke.
On Defense I think we might as well really go full youth movement. Dean has been bad for so long now it's an indictment of the previous regimes that he's still playing at all much less among the team leaders in snaps. And it's not just blown coverages, he's been bad in run support, like epically bad, which is supposed to be his strength. On Saturday Torrance who is supposed to be the safety with good ball skills and doesn't drop down into the box had 11 tackles and 2 assists. Dean had 3 tackles and 3 assists. So even his "strength" has become a liability. There's no reason for him to be out there. I'd be okay with blown coverages from Freshman and Sophomores, but this is his 6th year. 6 YEARS. And he's still blowing coverages like that. Inside there are times when our supposed top 15 talent is replaced by a 430 lbs. guy that cannot move laterally. Nobody can at that weight. The stench of Grant Ham is still all over this defense, maybe turn over the personnel to the extent possible to wash it off.
We're going with Co-coordinators at DC one of whom is a career position coach with a good resume but no DC experience to draw from and the other (who seems to be the lead dog) is in charge of the safeties (clearly the worst position group so far) and has a year of DC experience at Lousiana and a resume that doesn't really qualify him for the position. It seems like Raymond who is our best recruiter with the best reputation makes more sense at DC than either of them, but he hasn't been with Napier so maybe this is a feeling out year. The Defense has not appeared well coached so far, but I don't think you can do a 1 year leash with how bad things had gotten, but if it doesn't improve I wouldn't be surprised at all with a staff shuffle of responsibilities at the very least.
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Post by Rock Gator on Sept 27, 2022 16:40:35 GMT -5
I don't love or hate the chart, because I can find another one that says kick it when down 11. I was just happy that I understood what happened. As you said, at least he has a process for making that decision and if you heard him in the presser, he fully believed in the decision. Right or wrong, that was his approach, with all the 4th downs too, and he didn't say it, but it screamed "scared money don't make money". That's our coach boys and girls, so hang on to your britches, this is going to be a wild ride.
RG
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Post by Mojave Gator on Sept 27, 2022 19:04:37 GMT -5
I still don't get it. It's not like you can tie the game in one possession when down nine.
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Post by wahhappen on Sept 28, 2022 6:44:01 GMT -5
I still don't get it. It's not like you can tie the game in one possession when down nine. The only thing I can think of is that your win probability goes up if you make the two point conversion there. Do we have an analyst on staff? Perhaps Napier consulted with him, taking into account time and situation, and took his advice⌠that would make me feel better than blindly trusting a chart no matter the circumstances. Most likely, somehow, the math works out to where we had a better chance of winning the game by going for it there. Either way, at least he has a process for making decisions in that scenario. |
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Post by Mojave Gator on Sept 29, 2022 0:00:26 GMT -5
"If they aren't going to defend it..."
- Ron Zook
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