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Post by tapsgator on Oct 27, 2023 12:29:44 GMT -5
I'm gonna be interested to see the gameplan and how much we compete in this game. Beggars can't be choosers at this point and SEC wins are SEC wins, but it seems like folks are getting pretty out over their skis from wins over arguably the 2 worst teams in the SEC who are a combined 4-11. I'm mainly interested to see if we attack on both sides of the ball or if we turtle up and play to "not lose too badly." UGA is missing their best player on offense and on Defense they've only got 12 sacks all year. While it may be tough to get Beck on the ground given that we have 11 sacks and UGA has only given up 6, but we still need to take chances and see if we can play downhill. Given Florida being 0-17 as a 14+ point dog in the last 50 years and the line of 14.5 a win is a long shot, but I'm hoping we go down swimming and that could set the tone for the rest of the season.
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Post by g8rfan on Oct 27, 2023 14:59:22 GMT -5
We really need to go for broke early in this one I think and try get them on their heels. I don’t think we are going to fare well if we try to line up and slug it out with them. Something something scared money..
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Post by soflaisgatorcountry on Oct 27, 2023 19:03:18 GMT -5
I feel this GA team that will take the field tomorrow is the least talented and less challenged GA team in the past 4 season. However that's like being the NBA All Star left off Team USA Olympic basketball team because there aren't enough roster spots. Though i feel better about Fla tomorrow than i ever did before the season (mainly bc Mertz has been good, offense looks better as well as Fla as a whole) and GA has some issues (Don't look as dominant as the past, no BBowers and CBeck has not been truly tested yet) i still think GA wins a game that will be closer than the final score.
I think ST may have a few plays that "Change the Game" not in Fla's favor and i fear GA will realize they can probably ground n pound our defense. So ill go 31-23 GA with a TD late in the 4th Qtr.
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Post by Mojave Gator on Oct 28, 2023 0:18:46 GMT -5
One of my enduring memories of this game came in my youth. My father and I attended the 1968 game. It poured rain the entire game, and Georgia obliterated Florida 51-0. A drunk Georgia fan offered me a shot of whiskey. I was 13.
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Post by wahhappen on Oct 28, 2023 10:50:53 GMT -5
This is where the rubber meets the road. Is this a must win? No. But today we find out if we truly are improving or if beating up on Vandy and barely skating by against SC just looked like we got better due to the lack of competition. My hope is the gameplan looks more like the second half of SC than our traditional conservative approach. My fear is we aired it out due to desperation. If we don’t have something different and more aggressive for the dancing dawgs coming off of a bye in game where we have nothing to lose, it says all we need to know about this coaching staff.
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Post by g8rfan on Oct 28, 2023 14:54:56 GMT -5
Keep. Throwing. The. Football. GO GATORS!!!
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Post by bimigator on Oct 28, 2023 15:35:48 GMT -5
If you don't have confidence your O-line can sneak your QB a yard on 4th down, just punt the ball. Don't turn it over on a stupid trick play 30 yards from their end zone.
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Post by bimigator on Oct 28, 2023 15:52:53 GMT -5
Starting to get out of hand. Apparently Armstrong didn't prepare to defend the novel tactic of...running right up the middle.
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Post by bimigator on Oct 28, 2023 15:57:32 GMT -5
Nobody expected a cakewalk, but you just can't beat Georgia if you get yourself down by 20 points.
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Post by g8rfan on Oct 28, 2023 16:09:30 GMT -5
Nobody expected a cakewalk, but you just can't beat Georgia if you get yourself down by 20 points. Turns out blocking and tackling are still important in football. |
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Post by wahhappen on Oct 28, 2023 17:44:39 GMT -5
Well we had a good first drive.
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Post by Rock Gator on Oct 28, 2023 17:53:06 GMT -5
We really need to go for broke early in this one I think and try get them on their heels. I don’t think we are going to fare well if we try to line up and slug it out with them. Something something scared money.. RDB heard you and went for broke. And then we were broke. I really think going for it on 4th down with a trick play AT YOUR OWN 25 YARD LINE, or whatever it was, that early in the game, was a huge mistake. It showed desperation, it showed that he had no confidence in his D, and it was a 7 point gift to UG. |
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Post by Rock Gator on Oct 28, 2023 18:17:39 GMT -5
My thoughts on this game, thought admittedly I walked away from it in the first half and went to the beach bar. RDB was overmatched again. He didn't seem to understand what this game means, nor how to deal with it. One good drive doesn't make for a win, and you don't give UG short fields. They are relentless 5* athletes that you have to deal with all day long. And finally, they know how to play defense better than you know how to play (Sun Belt) offense. That is all.
PS. That storm out by Bermuda, Tammy, is still bringing wind and waves to the east coast beaches.
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Post by g8rfan on Oct 28, 2023 18:56:26 GMT -5
We really need to go for broke early in this one I think and try get them on their heels. I don’t think we are going to fare well if we try to line up and slug it out with them. Something something scared money.. RDB heard you and went for broke. And then we were broke. I really think going for it on 4th down with a trick play AT YOUR OWN 25 YARD LINE, or whatever it was, that early in the game, was a huge mistake. It showed desperation, it showed that he had no confidence in his D, and it was a 7 point gift to UG. That uh, play or whatever, wasn’t what I had in mind… |
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Post by tapsgator on Oct 28, 2023 19:27:54 GMT -5
We are a bottom tier SEC football team with a coach from the sunbelt who refuses to hire an OC, QB Coach, or special teams coach. We’re also easily the most morbidly obese team in the country with our 3 deep at nose tackle at least 200 lbs. overweight. And we’re okay with that, or we’re supposed to be, because we wouldn’t want to be called spoiled. This is what real football teams will do to us
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME
Graham mertz is still Graham mertz, he played well for him, he just took sacks and threw the ball behind the line of scrimmage on 4th down because that’s what he does, it’s who he is, Wilson wasn’t targeted downfield for 3 quarters after being unstoppable in the first drive. That shit may work against South Carolina and their 127th rated pass defense or Vandy and their 117th evidently kentucky at 109 was a bridge too far. But it’s okay, can’t expect to be any better than .500 at UF. Cuz spoiled. What a fucking joke.
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Post by tapsgator on Oct 28, 2023 19:49:34 GMT -5
On the bright side the 4th down call was hysterical. I’m impressed that they executed the first 2 of the 15 things that had to go right for that play to work, snapping the ball thru the QBs legs and catching a snap that went through somebody’s legs is nothing to sneeze at. The whole blocking for long enough to get a pass off, the TE getting out of the traffic in the middle and then getting open, and a running back dropping a dime over the rushing DE and the covering linebacker but before the safety comes over the top just weren’t quite there. I really can’t think of a worse play call than that one. It was pure, unadulterated nonsense. The screens behind the line on 4th downs that worked against a shitty team and failed against a real one look like genius playcalls compared to that one. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a play design where you nutmeg the QB at any level of football so to pull it out in that situation. Is absolutely wonderful
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Post by Rock Gator on Oct 29, 2023 6:12:26 GMT -5
RDB heard you and went for broke. And then we were broke. I really think going for it on 4th down with a trick play AT YOUR OWN 25 YARD LINE, or whatever it was, that early in the game, was a huge mistake. It showed desperation, it showed that he had no confidence in his D, and it was a 7 point gift to UG. That uh, play or whatever, wasn’t what I had in mind… I hear you! |
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Post by Rock Gator on Oct 29, 2023 6:16:09 GMT -5
On the bright side the 4th down call was hysterical. I’m impressed that they executed the first 2 of the 15 things that had to go right for that play to work, snapping the ball thru the QBs legs and catching a snap that went through somebody’s legs is nothing to sneeze at. The whole blocking for long enough to get a pass off, the TE getting out of the traffic in the middle and then getting open, and a running back dropping a dime over the rushing DE and the covering linebacker but before the safety comes over the top just weren’t quite there. I really can’t think of a worse play call than that one. It was pure, unadulterated nonsense. The screens behind the line on 4th downs that worked against a shitty team and failed against a real one look like genius playcalls compared to that one. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a play design where you nutmeg the QB at any level of football so to pull it out in that situation. Is absolutely wonderful That play was a peach all right. A Georgia peach. |
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Post by g8rfan on Oct 29, 2023 7:14:02 GMT -5
There has to be an easier way to gain 2 feet right? This whole situation is just depressing.
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Post by Rock Gator on Oct 29, 2023 13:35:26 GMT -5
Did ANY of the media ask him about the bone-headed call of the year? Anybody? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller?
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Post by Mojave Gator on Oct 29, 2023 14:09:57 GMT -5
Fourth and a foot and we run wide, giving Georgia time to react. Brilliant call.
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Post by g8rfan on Oct 29, 2023 14:18:29 GMT -5
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Post by Mojave Gator on Oct 29, 2023 14:39:39 GMT -5
I swear, this guy gives me Zook flashbacks.
I think, ultimately, when you fail in the game of football and in life, you got an opportunity to learn.
Reminds me of Zook's statement after the Gators blew a big lead at Miami that they learned more by losing the game than they would have won had they won. It remains the dumbest statement that I have ever heard a coach make after a loss.
I think obviously looking the players in the eye after the game, I think they know they can play better as well.
Well, that's convincing. "Obviously" was also a classic Zook word, usually applied to things that only he could see.
But it’s not necessarily about the plays at times. It’s about the players. It’s about the execution. We can certainly call better plays at times today, but ultimately it comes down to the execution of the play.
This has kind of a Shane Beamer vibe to it, and I don't care for it.
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Post by wahhappen on Oct 29, 2023 14:56:33 GMT -5
I swear, this guy gives me Zook flashbacks. But it’s not necessarily about the plays at times. It’s about the players. It’s about the execution. We can certainly call better plays at times today, but ultimately it comes down to the execution of the play.This has kind of a Shane Beamer vibe to it, and I don't care for it. It’s the job of the coaches to get the ball to our athletes with 8-10 yards of space between them and the 1st down marker. It is the players’ responsibility to make 3-4 tacklers miss and turn that 1-2 yard pass into a first down (that’s the execution part). |
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Post by Mojave Gator on Oct 29, 2023 19:31:23 GMT -5
I swear, this guy gives me Zook flashbacks. But it’s not necessarily about the plays at times. It’s about the players. It’s about the execution. We can certainly call better plays at times today, but ultimately it comes down to the execution of the play.This has kind of a Shane Beamer vibe to it, and I don't care for it. It’s the job of the coaches to get the ball to our athletes with 8-10 yards of space between them and the 1st down marker. It is the players’ responsibility to make 3-4 tacklers miss and turn that 1-2 yard pass into a first down (that’s the execution part). Thanks for explaining that. I was wondering. |
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Post by soflaisgatorcountry on Oct 30, 2023 9:00:09 GMT -5
No QB coach, No OC and No ST coach and it showed. The attempt to run that trick play on 1st down of the second drive completely stopped all of Fla's momentum killing the drive. Then that 4th down gimmick play was even more ridiculous.
I said to a few of my Gator buddies, "Even if Napier recruits his tail off and gets the talent level equal with GA, does anyone truly believe He will be able to outduel Kirby and Muschamp on gameday with his Play Calling vs theirs?". Same for ST play, any program with a quality hire at that position will have their team at at advantage over a Napier team regardless of FLA's talent level.
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Post by tapsgator on Oct 30, 2023 9:20:29 GMT -5
This is all so bad I'm going to refrain from making fun of him. The response talking about execution is every bit as bad as anything Zook ever said, and in my opinion worse. I'd rather have a meathead coach willing to fight in front of the Pike house to protect his players than a guy who repeatedly makes awful calls, gets away with it against awful teams (I'm telling you that 4&11 TE screen behind the line against the Cocks would have gone down in infamy if not for nice RAC and a helluva block from Etienne) and then throws them under the bus. I had to watch the 4th down call because I'm just gonna have fun with this team. Again, the fact that the center was able to snap it between somebody's legs and a RB not accustomed to catching snaps was able to catch it is pretty damn good execution. Hell I'll give Gutsy Graham the check down man credit for being able to spread his legs wide enough yet still take a stance that on TV it looked somewhat believable, although based on UGA's reaction I'm guessing it was noticeable in real time. Another funny thing is if we had stopped there, with just the snap between the legs to Etienne and had him run he definitely gets the first down, and may pop out the backside for a house call. The right side was wide open, now that may be due to them covering the patterns that were being run on the left (because Etienne is left-handed), but he was going to throw that ball, that was the design without a doubt. It's a bridge too far but I really wish someone had asked him to elaborate on the comment regarding execution and how great he felt about his play-calling. |
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Oct 30, 2023 10:14:06 GMT -5
The other thing that made the play so bad was the fact that the intended target was coming across the back of the line of scrimmage from the slot on the right side and the timing of the throw was completely buggered up because Pearsall got caught up with our own tight end or tackle that was trying to make a block on the guy that eventually blew up Etienne. All the receivers on the left side of the formation were just clearing out so Pearsall could come underneath from the other side. none of the receivers on the left hand side of the formation even looked for the ball. Etienne had to hold the ball longer than planned because Pearsall was so late clearing the mess that was the left hand side of our o-line getting blown back into his path. In essence we covered our own primary receiver long enough to blow the play up. The play had way to many moving parts to be the call you bet your 4th and 1 from your own 34 yard line on, especially when you are already in catch up mode.
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Post by tapsgator on Oct 30, 2023 11:05:17 GMT -5
The other thing that made the play so bad was the fact that the intended target was coming across the back of the line of scrimmage from the slot on the right side and the timing of the throw was completely buggered up because Pearsall got caught up with our own tight end or tackle that was trying to make a block on the guy that eventually blew up Etienne. All the receivers on the left side of the formation were just clearing out so Pearsall could come underneath from the other side. none of the receivers on the left hand side of the formation even looked for the ball. Etienne had to hold the ball longer than planned because Pearsall was so late clearing the mess that was the left hand side of our o-line getting blown back into his path. In essence we covered our own primary receiver long enough to blow the play up. The play had way to many moving parts to be the call you bet your 4th and 1 from your own 34 yard line on, especially when you are already in catch up mode. It was truly amazing. The other thing that just occurred to me, but is hopefully lost on Etienne and his family, is that if you're questioning the execution of the play the primary person who "didn't execute" was your best player who you don't use enough in a traditional sense to begin with and every coach in America is trying to coax into the portal. That play is like an onion the more layers you peel the more you cry. |
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Post by gatordoll on Oct 30, 2023 11:42:34 GMT -5
That play was the perfect example of the ineptness of our coaching staff.
Btw that 4th down was a terrible spot by the refs and I thought RDB should have challenged it. Still 4th down but inches instead of close to a yard.
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