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Post by tapsgator on Jun 27, 2024 22:27:36 GMT -5
gatorswire.usatoday.com/2024/06/26/florida-football-record-prediction-cbs-sports/4-8 prediction. Saddest part: "While some of the more favorable prognostications call for a .500 finish, others are not so bullish on the Gators." Favorable finish at .500. At the University of Florida. Unfuckingbelievable. He goes on to say that two winnable home games that could "swing the tide" are Miami and Texas A&M. If we can beat the 9th best team in the ACC last year and a team that didn't win on the road in 2 home games the tide will be swung and we could go .500. That would be a deal man. Also this: "He ultimately picked the under for the Gators at 4.5 wins (+122)" Has the win total moved to 4.5?  ?
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Post by wahhappen on Jun 28, 2024 9:50:32 GMT -5
When was the last time the Gators were predicted to have a losing record in the pre-season? Even in a down year -- and the faithful are touting this as the deepest and most talented team Napier has had in his tenure, nay, one of the greatest Gator rosters ever assembled -- we would historically be favored in at least 7 of the games on our schedule in 2024. And according to Vegas and now CBS, we appear to be underdogs in at least 7 going into the season.
Remember when Ron Zook got on a roll in 2003, won 5 games in a row, and his name was being thrown around as a potential Coach of the Year Award (LOL)? That team finished 8-5 with another Outback Bowl loss, and fans were suddenly reminded of how much talent a coach can squander. He didn't make it through the next season after showing us he wasn't good enough to get the job done at the level we expected. And now we act like it is an impossible task to beat a ranked opponent. We have allowed Alabama, Georgia, and LSU to claim dominance in the conference, and we are now one of the biggest pussy schools in the SEC. It is pathetic. Napier brings no coaching chops, no recruiting advantage, and no edge to the program. We look like the nerds in Revenge of the Nerds before Poindexter sacked up and became a leader.
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Post by Mojave Gator on Jun 29, 2024 23:21:19 GMT -5
"Deepest and most talented" isn't a great thing when you consider what it is being compared to - seasons that ended at 6-7 and 5-7.
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Post by tapsgator on Jul 1, 2024 10:31:05 GMT -5
"Deepest and most talented" isn't a great thing when you consider what it is being compared to - seasons that ended at 6-7 and 5-7. It's also not true, certainly not the most talented part. His first year he had a roster that included the #4 pick, 2 second round picks including one that made the NFL all-rookie team, a 4th, a 5th, and a 6th. Also Pearsall who went first round this year. Also on that team was Princely who is a consensus first round pick, Etienne who is projected Day 2 at the latest, Henderson who is a mid round prospect, Braun who was all SEC last year, and on and on and on. I don't think the biggest problem at this point is Napier or even Stricklin. It is the uneducated fanbase who can read shit like this article where the positives are (at least partially) made up and the negatives are brushed aside, and nod in approval. Or hear SOS say "if we win 8 games we'll be a happy bunch of Gators and do cartwheels," and think it's his seal of approval and he has seen the error of his ways from whence he dared to criticize Napier. Or blame a kid, his family, and (my personal favorite) the best coach at the best program in the country for being jealous and threatened by CWT for filing suit and naming the coach of a program when he was a part of or at least had knowledge of a concerted effort to convince a kid to walk away from 10 million for 14 million and then turn around and not pay once his other options were off the table. All of this is not Napier's or Stricklin's fault, it's just bad luck and a lot of societal problems with a dash of conspiracy to keep a great football mind down. I hope I'm wrong but I think the majority of the fanbase is content with the direction of the program. If we win 6 games they'll declare victory. It's amazing. With that mentality we will not be a playoff contender unless they expand to 64 teams. |
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Post by g8rfan on Jul 1, 2024 11:23:36 GMT -5
Not to split hairs Taps, but even if they did expand to 64 teams we’d probably be on the bubble.
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Post by tapsgator on Jul 1, 2024 12:31:01 GMT -5
Not to split hairs Taps, but even if they did expand to 64 teams we’d probably be on the bubble. 2 words: Strength of Schedule 2 more: repeatability process and faith in the consistentasustainability |
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Post by wahhappen on Jul 1, 2024 14:48:47 GMT -5
"Deepest and most talented" isn't a great thing when you consider what it is being compared to - seasons that ended at 6-7 and 5-7. It's also not true, certainly not the most talented part. His first year he had a roster that included the #4 pick, 2 second round picks including one that made the NFL all-rookie team, a 4th, a 5th, and a 6th. Also Pearsall who went first round this year. Also on that team was Princely who is a consensus first round pick, Etienne who is projected Day 2 at the latest, Henderson who is a mid round prospect, Braun who was all SEC last year, and on and on and on. I don't think the biggest problem at this point is Napier or even Stricklin. It is the uneducated fanbase who can read shit like this article where the positives are (at least partially) made up and the negatives are brushed aside, and nod in approval. Or hear SOS say "if we win 8 games we'll be a happy bunch of Gators and do cartwheels," and think it's his seal of approval and he has seen the error of his ways from whence he dared to criticize Napier. Or blame a kid, his family, and (my personal favorite) the best coach at the best program in the country for being jealous and threatened by CWT for filing suit and naming the coach of a program when he was a part of or at least had knowledge of a concerted effort to convince a kid to walk away from 10 million for 14 million and then turn around and not pay once his other options were off the table. All of this is not Napier's or Stricklin's fault, it's just bad luck and a lot of societal problems with a dash of conspiracy to keep a great football mind down. I hope I'm wrong but I think the majority of the fanbase is content with the direction of the program. If we win 6 games they'll declare victory. It's amazing. With that mentality we will not be a playoff contender unless they expand to 64 teams. You would think people would pay attention and understand this. I can't figure out why it is such a widely spread take that we have practically built the beginnings of a dynasty with these last three recruiting classes. |
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Post by g8rfan on Jul 1, 2024 16:17:59 GMT -5
It's also not true, certainly not the most talented part. His first year he had a roster that included the #4 pick, 2 second round picks including one that made the NFL all-rookie team, a 4th, a 5th, and a 6th. Also Pearsall who went first round this year. Also on that team was Princely who is a consensus first round pick, Etienne who is projected Day 2 at the latest, Henderson who is a mid round prospect, Braun who was all SEC last year, and on and on and on. I don't think the biggest problem at this point is Napier or even Stricklin. It is the uneducated fanbase who can read shit like this article where the positives are (at least partially) made up and the negatives are brushed aside, and nod in approval. Or hear SOS say "if we win 8 games we'll be a happy bunch of Gators and do cartwheels," and think it's his seal of approval and he has seen the error of his ways from whence he dared to criticize Napier. Or blame a kid, his family, and (my personal favorite) the best coach at the best program in the country for being jealous and threatened by CWT for filing suit and naming the coach of a program when he was a part of or at least had knowledge of a concerted effort to convince a kid to walk away from 10 million for 14 million and then turn around and not pay once his other options were off the table. All of this is not Napier's or Stricklin's fault, it's just bad luck and a lot of societal problems with a dash of conspiracy to keep a great football mind down. I hope I'm wrong but I think the majority of the fanbase is content with the direction of the program. If we win 6 games they'll declare victory. It's amazing. With that mentality we will not be a playoff contender unless they expand to 64 teams. You would think people would pay attention and understand this. I can't figure out why it is such a widely spread take that we have practically built the beginnings of a dynasty with these last three recruiting classes. Three words: Brain dead. |
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Post by SoTxCaiman on Jul 1, 2024 19:46:41 GMT -5
Added a third word for you....
Three words:
F'ing brain dead.
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Post by tapsgator on Jul 2, 2024 12:05:28 GMT -5
All of this is not Napier's or Stricklin's fault, it's just bad luck and a lot of societal problems with a dash of conspiracy to keep a great football mind down. I hope I'm wrong but I think the majority of the fanbase is content with the direction of the program. If we win 6 games they'll declare victory. It's amazing. With that mentality we will not be a playoff contender unless they expand to 64 teams. You would think people would pay attention and understand this. I can't figure out why it is such a widely spread take that we have practically built the beginnings of a dynasty with these last three recruiting classes. Yeah, per Rivals those classes ranked 22: 18 23: 13 24: 15 For an average of 15.33. After our flurry of mid-low level 4 star receivers last week we shot all the way up to 67 in 25, shame that we're 0-5 on Offensive Lineman but we've still go 2 coaches for that position group so I think that 0 is likely to explode up to 3-5 with a couple 3 stars, a low 4 star or 2 that miss on their top choice(s) and then at least one foreign guy who has played American football for less than 3 years. It's hard not to get excited about that. |
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Post by tapsgator on Jul 2, 2024 12:55:56 GMT -5
"Deepest and most talented" isn't a great thing when you consider what it is being compared to - seasons that ended at 6-7 and 5-7. Team Talent Composite under CWT: 21: 7 22: 14 23: 15 24 isn't out yet but I'm expecting it to be 20+, but if we just keep saying it's a more talented team we should be just fine. |
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Post by wahhappen on Jul 2, 2024 13:40:49 GMT -5
These rankings don't take into account how "bought in" they are into our rebuilding process. The guys we brought in are more excited about learning how to practice and do things right than the 4-stars who left. Come to think of it, I have not read one report from Georgia or Texas A&M QB boasting about how they have learned how to do things the right way from our transfers. Could it be that they are not ready for NFL style practices?
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Post by g8rfan on Jul 2, 2024 13:58:30 GMT -5
"Deepest and most talented" isn't a great thing when you consider what it is being compared to - seasons that ended at 6-7 and 5-7. Team Talent Composite under CWT: 21: 7 22: 14 23: 15 24 isn't out yet but I'm expecting it to be 20+, but if we just keep saying it's a more talented team we should be just fine. If that’s not a deal right there I don’t know what is! |
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