Post by gatorduck on Dec 18, 2005 1:46:43 GMT -5
"A Little Cheese With That Wine?"
We Got Mail! Yay!
Gator Duck note: Sorry, folks, there were no dates given to help give timeline perspective. They are presented in the order that they were at the site [oldest pages first], so hopefully they are at least in chronological order. The Duck
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The Ron Henke letters:
You can reach Ron by writing him at firstname.lastname@example.org! Now, on with the show....
Ron Henke: "Ron Zook is a great football coach!"
FRZ.com: Good start because it's been proven that he is not. Boy, you almost had me there.
Ron Henke: "What do you know about football?"
FRZ.com: Clearly, just as much as a high school coach in Cincinnati.
Ron Henke: "Go ahead, you are a football expert, tell me where the quarterback is supposed to throw the football versus cover one blitz, with man to man coverage all over the field, when the play called is a double stop pattern, (three step quick stop pass play to the two outside wide receivers, since I know you have no clue what a stop pattern is) with one wide receiver on one side and three receivers evenly spaced on the other side with the widest receiver between the hash mark and the sideline, with the quarterback under center and the one back in the tailback position six to seven yards back."
FRZ.com: I call timeout like Zook's quarterback will.
Ron Henke: "Are there any adjustments that the wide receivers must make, if so, what do they do? Who should the quarterback throw the ball to?"
FRZ.com: I'm glad you've thrown out this hypothetical. Am I Moeller High under Gerry Faust against your brilliant mind? Am I Ron Zook and do I call a second straight timeout? Do I pretend I'm in the Big 10 (+1) and run off tackle because that's what they do regardless of situation. If you want to get technical - you must supply real life situations - down and distance, personnel on each team, game time left, etc., etc. Let me throw one at you there, Sparky ... you have five guys on a basketball court with 2 seconds left and down 1 - who takes the last shot? If you don't tell me who you've got, am I supposed to say shooting guard and you tell me that I'm wrong when I pass up the choice of small forward Michael Jordan?
If I'm in the Orange Bowl in 2002, I throw to whoever I want because they can't cover any of my receivers.
Ron Henke: "What about the line blocking? You have seven defenders in the box, with two guys directly over the tackles and two guys directly over the guards and two linebackers stacked behind them, with both linebackers showing blitz through the A-Gap. Do you know what the A-Gap is? Who is supposed to block whom? Is there any calls to make? The seventh man, he is man to man on the tailback."
FRZ.com: The only call is to use correct grammar. This speaks volumes about high school education in Ohio. Is the A-Gap the one between your two front teeth?
Ron Henke: "Just what I thought, you don't know shit about the game of football, yet you put up this web site and degrade someone who probably has a thousand times the character that you do, and definitely knows one million times more football than you do."
FRZ.com: I have had the privilege of meeting Mr. Ron Zook. At the time, my first instinct was that here is another overblown ego that thinks that you can pump everybody up and all will be well. I thought he was a village idiot then and when he and Mr. Foley are escorted out of the UAA offices, I will be proven correct. I have worked alongside many football coaches over the past 10 years, and character is not a word I use very often.
Ron Henke: "I bring up this example because several years ago I saw the Florida Gators lose a football game because they could not pick up that exact blitz. They never made the correct blocking adjustments over two or three offensive series and lost the game because of it. I told my friend that I should call Steve Spurrier and tell him that his offensive line coach doesn't have a clue, but hell if Steve Spurrier doesn't know it, then what can you say, he was the Head Football Coach, and he should know everything. I did, as a former Head Football Coach, so why didn't he?"
FRZ.com: Yes, and we beat Florida State 52-20 in the rematch for the National Championship. Oh, that's right ... Ron Zook was with the Steelers.
Ron Henke: "And, just to set the record straight, I thought and still do that Steve Spurrier did a tremendous job as the Head Coach of the Florida Gators, but nobody is a genius, not even Steve Spurrier."
FRZ.com: At least you're one for two.
Ron Henke: "Just give Ron Zook a chance, what the hell, maybe I was wrong about you, and you do know a lot about football. It is probably wrong for me to pre-judge you, just as it is wrong for you to pre-judge Ron Zook."
FRZ.com: You are absolutely right to pre-judge me. I clearly had you pegged after three or four paragraphs. Lest you forget, we lived through four years of the previous Zook era.
Ron Henke: "And as far as losing recruits goes, any time you change football coaches, you are going to lose some recruits, especially if the assistant coach that was recruiting the player leaves the school."
FRZ.com: Please read the recruiting update to see what we think of his class.
Ron Henke: "By the way, Ron Zook is also a great recruiter, and he will surround himself with great coaches, as well as great recruiters. And if you didn't know, great football players make great coaches, that is something that all coaches know in any sport."
FRZ.com: That is just the opposite. The great football players, great basketball players and great baseball players very RARELY make great coaches/managers. If you looked at history you would know that. The former players that make the best coaches are the ones who don't have the best talent, yet achieved success. They achieved that success by maximizing their strengths and exploiting the weaknesses of their opponents. Great coaches win at places they should not win. This is a quick synopsis, but Ron Zook has none of these traits. Enthusiasm does not win football games and that is the one quality that everyone agrees Ron Zook has. Plus, I can think of 15 better recruiters off the top of my head. The problem with that you ask? Ten of them are in the SEC and 6 of them are in the SEC East. FYI - none of them are on the Florida Football Staff at this time. Is it going to be tough for Ron Zook to follow Steve Spurrier? Yes it is.
Ron Henke: "You could bring back Woody, the Bear, Ara, anybody you wanted, and they would have a tough time following Steve Spurrier. Just look what his final record was, it speaks for itself."
FRZ.com: For Ron Zook, it will be impossible to follow SOS.
Ron Henke: "I love the game of football, and since moving to Florida I have become a Gator fan, because some of the nicest people I have met in Florida have been Gator fans, and that is why I am now a Gator fan."
FRZ.com: This explains why you have no idea what it is like to bleed orange and blue...and you never will.
Ron Henke: "I am also a Ron Zook fan because I used to coach with Ron Zook under Mike Gottfried at the University of Cincinnati way back in 1982, and after that stint he used to come down to the high school I was the head coach at when he was at Ohio State and recruiting players from the Cincinnati area. I didn't have any players that were the caliber to compete at the Ohio State level, but he stopped by anyways. It was then that I realized that he was more than a great coach, he was also a great person, who cares deeply about the young men he coaches."
FRZ.com: This explains a lot. Let me see, you are a HS coach...and a college coach visits regardless if you have any players. Let's see, that's every college coach in America! Congratulations, this does make Ron special. I was wrong all along...
Ron Henke: "Somewhere you have lost that vision since you are putting down a young man via your web site that is trying to become a doctor some day, what the hell is that. Be a man, write a retraction."
FRZ.com: Retraction. There are thousands upon thousands of quality UF students that I have no problem becoming doctors. This one particular doctor watches a perfect season go awry because he's three steps late to the corner of the end zone AT HOME and we have to watch that pudgy Terry Bowden run onto the field dancing. Frank Sanders was not fast. That's agonizing. The kid three doors down from me in Hume Hall as a freshman, let that kid be a doctor.
Ron Henke: "Finally, the best of luck to the Florida Gators, now headed by that's right, Head Football Coach Ron Zook!!!!!!"
FRZ.com: Like a gallon of milk, that last statement has an expiration date.
Post by gatorduck on Dec 18, 2005 1:52:41 GMT -5
If you made it down this far, you have the honor of seeing one of our loyal readers respond to Ron Henke's letter below! Keep 'em comin!
This Hurricane must back the responses from FRZ on fireronzook.com to your letter. Understand this...you are an implant...not a native. I would not criticize an unhappy, disgruntled Cincinatti Bearcat fan, or a Ohio St. fan, whatever you "were", simply because I would have to be honest enough to say that I am not aware of the particulars of the situation. Meeting the future head coach of the Bearcats at some point in my life would not enlighten me any more. FRZ is entitled to his opinion on Florida athletics because he actually contributed to the University. I have a few friends who created similar web sites when UM was placed on probation. They were entitled, no matter how controversial. This is something native Floridians, do not ask me to explain because I do not know why, take very personally. There is nothing more I hate than sitting in Pro Player Stadium behind a couple who just moved down from New Hampshire with all of their Dolphins gear on, turning around and telling fans to stand up and cheer for "our" team. We do not ask you guys not to root for Miami, Florida, FSU, Bucs, Phins, or Jags...we just ask that if you choose to move to Florida, you stick to the bandwagon that brung ya. If you decide to transfer loyalties....then please do so quietly so that the rest of us original fans can enjoy OUR controversies, victories, losses, etc. our own way. This is the common courtesy we give Cincinatti, Ohio St., Nebraska, Oklahoma, and all other fans. I am glad you choose to teach young men to play the game I love above all others...I think that is very commendable, however, do not confuse the knowledge of any given playbook to the knowledge of a particular playbook you did not take part in bringing to reality. I have seen many of Spurrier's plays drawn up...and I promise you...they are more technical than just a bunch of general football lingo. Please accept this as a small piece of advice from a native....tread lightly while you're here, but feel free to enjoy the wonderful world of football made in the State of Florida! Thank you Mike J. for your inspiring words. By the way, I don't like people with Dolphin gear on either...but it has nothing to do with New Hampshire
Post by gatorduck on Dec 18, 2005 2:36:15 GMT -5
Our first letter this week comes to us from McoupeFWB@cs.com
How are you feeling now jackass? As a true Gator,I'm embarrassed at your site. Maybe you're feeling a bit stupid after yesterday. If not, you should be. We lost to the #1 team in the Country. FSU probably will too. Maybe you should start a web site to fire Bowden? That coach has the third most wins of all time, yet lost 4 games last year-2 to teams not ranked in the top 15. Do you forget what the score was when Steve last to Tennessee?-45 to 3.
You're an idiot. Ron will be fine.
FRZ.com: The website is a challenge. How many articles did you read this weekend that quoted UF players saying how they wanted to win this because of all the criticism Zook has been receiving, and how 'this one was for our coach'. Lemme ask you this: What did you do to motivate our Football team this past weekend? Did you make some cheesy poofs and drink your beer, hoping that someone else would piss these guys off enough to play the kind of football we all know they can play? I didn't. I made a website....and i pissed off lots and lots of people, and you know what....the Gators are playing for their coach and standing behind him 100% and I couldn't be happier. So when you ask me how I feel...we just beat Tennessee.
HOW THE F*CK DO YOU THINK I FEEL?
As always, thanks for visiting FireRonZook.com!
Our next letter comes to us from email@example.com
Perhaps after the game this week, you might just look in mirror and realize what a dumb ass you are.
FRZ.com: Um, no.
I must say... since the Ole Miss game our fans are growing. Welcome aboard.
This letter was just too good to pass up. It comes to us from Gatorcounsel@aol.com
Fairness and Decency don't figure prominently in the attributes of someone who would go to this much trouble to stake out a position such as summarily firing Ron Zook before he has coached a down.
FRZ.com: I'm not trying to be fair or decent. I can go to church on Sunday morning for those things. I want to win football games and I don't think Ron Zook can win football games. I won't even bring the word 'Championship' into a sentence with Zook's name. That is the reason we have "staked out a position of summarily firing" Ron Zook. I can see why you're a lawyer. The SAT's were before college... you don't have to try and use big words to impress us here...
I'm also quite sure 15 MINUTES OF FAME a la Andy Warhol is lurking here as well.
FRZ.com: It's more like 2 Hours of Fame, but we don't care. If we did, you'd see us on SportsCenter, GameDay, etc., etc. because they would have us in a heartbeat.
No doubt you live for letters like this.
FRZ.com: Actually, I live for many other things that don't need to be mentioned here. However, letters like these remind me of the blind faith some Gator fans have. You're making me long for the Galen Hall years.
You can't be much of a Gator fan or at least one with much perspective (leading me to believe you are young or immature or both). The price of Zook failing, which is what it will take to get him fired, will be very high indeed if you don't mind thinking for a minute.
FRZ.com: I would rather have the whole damn department fired rather than suffer through three miserable years of football mediocrity. Jeremy Foley is not a great Athletic Director. Bill Arnsparger brought us Steve Spurrier, not Jeremy Foley. And I won't buy into the Foley hired Donovan argument because anyone who has ever gone to school at UF knows that the three most important sports are Football, Spring Football and Football Recruiting. Unless the hoops team wins big, no one gives a rat's ass. I remember watching Illinois nip the Gators in '89 at the O'Dome and the place wasn't even sold out. Both teams were in the Top 10 and still the loudest cheer of the night was for Emmitt Smith at halftime.
It will mean replacing an athletic director who has led Gator athletics to the top all sport position in the country because Jeremy Foley will resign or have to be fired as well.
FRZ.com: No offense, but name the last 10 swimming and diving team NCAA Champions.
Exactly... it doesn't matter.
So we will have to fill that job before beginning a higher profile, higher humiliation search than the last time. A new coach would of course take over well after recruiting has taken place so that means we lose a year or two when Spurrier didn't feel like doing it, and this year when Zook was hired late, and next year because of another coaching change, and at least several years after that when the University of Florida has absolutely no credibility with anyone. Are you ready to sacrifice a decade to make your point? It's been done before. Reference yourself to the firing of Doug Dickey in the late Seventies and the ten year cruise through the wasteland with two probations laid on us for hiring a rogue coach.
FRZ.com: Yes, I am willing to wait. Why, you ask? Because the cupboard is not "bare" as Zookie would have you believe. And we wouldn't have to hire a "rogue" coach. People will clamor for this position - but not if you go on a three-day tour of the U.S., hell-bent on hiring a coach. One other school's AD got on a plane and said "I'll come back with a coach" and Kevin White had his man in George O'Leary. Get the point. Due Diligence, my friend.
I dare not ask what Zook has done or not done to warrant your tantrum.
FRZ.com: It's definitely what he didn't do his first time around - which started with having a clue. Who gets demoted and stays I ask? Someone who can't get a job elsewhere, that's who.
He salvaged a recruiting blackhole after being hired.
FRZ.com: If you want to call that class "salvaged" so be it. Can you explain why Ciatrick Fason is covering kicks instead of red-shirting?
It took him three games to get to the point where his staff and the team could beat Tennessee with an offense in the rain that was as diverse and daring as Spurrier's on dry land.
FRZ.com: Diverse, no. Daring, no. A Tennessee flub. Yes. A reminder that Spurrier beat Alabama at Legion Field in his second game - so don't give me this "they came together in three games" crap.
Who did you want? "No Offense Stoops" or Mike Shanahan who was never coming here, or some other personal favorite?
FRZ.com: I think you should think about what you say here son. The overwhelming choice to be head coach was Bob Stoops. I didn't think Mike Shanahan would've been a good fit here, but he certainly would've been more successful than Zook will ever be.
Let me make a comparison between Foley and Arnsparger for you. Arnsparger hiring Spurrier was like JFK nailing Marilyn Monroe. Foley hiring Zook was the equivalent of Clinton nailing Monica Lewinsky. We don't need fat, ugly interns running the show.
So your own ego is more important than the entire program.
FRZ.com: Let me think about this one for a while ...
I was as shocked as the next person that Spurrier resigned and Zook was hired. But I've got decades invested in this team and I'm not going to piss on them for sport.
FRZ.com: This is hardly "sport" as you put it. This site is here because we, too, have decades invested.
Zook's done OK and he has sense enough to hire coaches to cover his weaknesses.
FRZ.com: Zaunbrecher's a clown. This crap works in the MAC, not the SEC. I like Thompson, but Zook keeps sticking his head in the defense and making things worse. See Tim Brando's column in The Sporting News after the Miami game. Then tell me how much he trusts his coaching staff. Please.
The players believe in him, recruits react favorably, and he at least beat one rival.
FRZ.com: No, no and no. Tennessee lost that game and, as we now see, it wasn't that big of a win.
He deserves a chance to prove himself without people like you bleating like you're getting your nuts snipped.
FRZ.com: Funny you should mention getting nuts snipped. Actually, the term is "removed" but we'll forgive you for this transgression.
On top of that the man lost his father. That means little to you maybe but it is an opportunity to display some decency.
FRZ.com: Our condolences.
If your self-importance and perverse idea of a good time will allow it, why don't you shut this down and check back in a few years.
FRZ.com: We did shut down. Obviously you can't read the opening pages. I can not even begin to tell you the utter disgust I felt sitting there being berated by thug Miami fans because Zook couldn't shut them up for us.
(I still think there's a great likelihood you are a dawg, nole, or some other varmint working counter to the Gators.)
FRZ.com: Once again, being clueless is the key to blind faith!
Post by gatorduck on Dec 18, 2005 22:16:32 GMT -5
I enjoyed perusing your site. I am an avid Gator fan, but was never in favor of the hiring of Zook. I believe you will enjoy my analogy of Foley's hiring of Zook.
In Charlie Brown's Christmas, Charlie was given the task of going out to find the biggest and best Christmas Tree. Charlie and Linus went out and looked around at all the pretty trees. When Charlie thought about this little runt of a tree, Linus said "I don't known about this, Charlie?" Charlie did what he thought was right and brought home a dead and wilting tree. The kids were disgusted when Charlie brought in the dead tree and laughed and called him a blockhead.
You are a blockhead Foley.
Thomas in Orlando G8TRS5220@aol.com
FRZ.com: If we drafted writers at FRZ.com, you'd be our first round pick. Excellent work!
Dear FRZ, Recently I emailed you stating that I hope you had the balls to apologize to Ron Zook if he proved you wrong with a championship. You humbly agreed and said that your website would be all about apologies if that happened. I am here to tell you that after the Ole Miss game you are definitely in the clear and would like you to know that after watching the Gators performance in Oxford and Ron Zook just flat out being out coached by Ole Miss I am now in total agreement with your cause. Unfortunately I think the Gator Nation is going to have to suffer through another year of this before anything is done.
2002 UF Grad firstname.lastname@example.org
FRZ.com: Welcome to the good side, my son.
Dear FRZ, I don't care AT ALL how Zook is "a nice guy". I don't care AT ALL how Zook "brings enthusiasm and excitement". I don't care AT ALL how much "rah-rah" baloney that Zook creates. NONE of that high school baloney is worth a crap on SATURDAY. Lack of preparation and the inability to adjust LOSES FOOTBALL GAMES, and that's what happened against Ole Miss.
Florida did not have a first down in five third quarter possessions, and Grossman went 2-for-10 for -2 yards. "Offensively, I have no concerns," Zook said. "Did we play well? No. Is it correctable? Yes. Sometimes with a new system, you have to get knocked down to get the light turned on."
No concerns, huh???!??!? That is a quote from a CLUELESS coach. How many times will the Gators "get knocked down" in the coming three years? How many more PATHETIC Gator losses will be delivered to Gator fans by the "Z-and-Z boys"??
Steve in Atlanta email@example.com
FRZ.com: Do we know each other? I always felt like I had a twin brother somewhere out there...
If Florida fans are as upset as they seem now, I can't wait to hear them cry when they lose at least 2 more SEC games and get their ass gift-wrapped for them in Tallahassee. The problem's not Zook. The Gators just suck.
Sarah Price firstname.lastname@example.org
FRZ.com: God I love women who know football. Too bad you aren't one of them. By the way, how much?
Post by gatorduck on Dec 18, 2005 22:39:25 GMT -5
We've been overwhelmed with emails lately! I wish I could publish more, but here's a little taste...
God bless you my friend. What you've been doing is holy work. You've been the voice of reason in the wilderness for months now. Keep it up as long as necessary.
Kris Reid email@example.com
FRZ.com: A reading from Psalm 23-1....
Jeremy Foley, who art our AD, slandered be thy name. Thy firing must come, Zook will be done, in the Swamp as it is in Gainesville. Give us this day our daily wish, and forgive us our losses as we forgive those who stomp our team. Lead us not into humiliation, but deliver us from Zook. For thine is the AD, the Boss, and our next target. Amen.
Thank you thank you thank you oh masked gator!!!!!! I was in The Swamp for the LSU game (was actually more like a funeral) and I am still pissed. I was one of those delusional ones who said "give Zook a chance" but he's had a chance. And he's blown it BIG TIME. How can you take a championship team and flush them down the crapper? I also have read a few of Zook's comments since the LSU game and Ole Miss game and he says the same thing, "We're a good team, we're getting better". Better at what??? At this rate we'll be lucky if we get to play in the toilet bowl. And another thing.....what kind of coach lets his quarterback take all the blame??? If I hear Grossman say one more time that its his fault I'm gonna go to Gainesville myself and knock some sense into him. Spurrier had his faults but he never let the players take all the blame. The faster we get rid of Zook the better. God help the Gators.
Winter Park, Florida FLG8rgrls@aol.com
FRZ.com: Tammy, we are delighted to hear from you. Any girl who uses the word 'crapper' is a gem in my book. We can only hope that noble women like you take an interest in our new FRZ.com thongs...
As we've become well aware of in the past several weeks, your gutsy move to become the anti-Zook advocate was genius. As a sports columnist, I must say I have logged onto your site several times. I am especially impressed by your latest revisions. I'm wondering...are you actually a Tally native, as your domain info indicates? Do you have some Seminole blood in you as well? All of this infatuates me, and I would like to hear more. Also, keep in mind, I am not a fan, nor an enemy, of the program. In this case, I simply wonder what made you realize so early on about the obvious flaws in Zook's coaching syle. I look forward to hearing from you.
FRZ.com: Ken, let us set the record straight: We are Florida graduates and fans...every one of us. It makes me sick to have this website. I would love to take it down, but there are only two ways that can happen and you and I both know we aren't winning any championships anytime soon...so it's in Foley's hands...again.
As far as our early predictions....we were there in the Zook 'defense' and 'special teams' years. We saw him coach. No one knew for sure how he'd turn out as a Head Coach, but we had our suspicions.
As it turns out....unfortunately we were right.
Well, we've won a couple games. You know what that means...the letters are bound to get more retarded. On with the show! (PS - I'm not editing the grammar and spelling in your letters anymore...idiots.)
I've been following the website for awhile and I've come to the conclusion that you're one of the biggest assholes I've ever seen. Not that that's necesserily a bad thing if you have your facts straight. However, you are an idiot. You stated that Adrian Karstan is going to give Zook the "beat down" next time because Zook walked away from him during the post game interview. I watched a tape of the game and here is what Karstan said. "Ironically now Ron, Florida is going to need some help from Georgia to make it to the SEC Championship Game." Hey bag boy, what is the name of the ESPN lead announcer? Oh hey! It's Ron Franklin! You ever think that THAT'S who Adrian was talking to? Idiot. If you're gonna be an asshole, at least don't make yourself look stupid in the process.
Jeff Edwards MrBlue6940@aol.com
FRZ.com: Dear Cleatus, I believe I wrote:
"Adrian Karsten is going to beat down Zook next time they do a Gator game. That's a given. You don't walk away in the middle of an interview, especially after you made him wait so you could talk to Babik. FYI - ESPN is trying to help you keep your job."
While your quick wit and elegant prose has me stunned, I realized it is you who is the Village Idiot. Rewind your game tape to halftime, my friend. You will catch a comment on a live microphone from Karsten saying "The other guy's got him." He says this with great disgust to the guys in the truck, but it gets broadcast nationally. Then, when he finally gets Zook, ol' Ron gives him the three-for-one run on sentence special (apparently only taught in Ohio High Schools). As Adrian asks question #2, Zook runs off to the locker room. Now, as all Gator fans know by now, this staff is not known for any halftime adjustments. So my question to you is simple - What was the hurry? Facts Mr. Blue (what a sassy e-mail address you have) are what make the story.
Post by gatorduck on Dec 18, 2005 23:27:17 GMT -5
First off I know you're site is going to be shuting down soon. Like after we beat FSU and win a SEC Championship! What are you going to say then he didn't win a National Title in his first season so he sucks as a coach lol! Look you only made this site to become popular. You're Popular alright a Popular Asshole! NOBODY LIKES YOU! You should have heard the guy on ESPN who said "You're website is cancaled!" Face it you're wrong. You act like a new coach is suppost to win every game he plays lol! Give him a break Zook is a good coach. But you're going to say that we didn't beat Georgia big enough or some bullcrap like that. Zook beat Georgia without Jacobs! These players like Zook and they respect him. Florida will win out even if they go to the SEC Championship game or not.
Leroy Larsen MariahFreak10@attbi.com
FRZ.com: Wow. You've given me so much material to work with I don't know where to start. Your email address might be a good place...what are you, some 10 year old hanging out in AOL chat rooms lol? I love Zook lol! Help me wipe, mommy lol!
As far as shutting down, forget it. We're not going anywhere until Zook is gone. Period. It doesn't matter what the Gainesville Sun misquoted. It doesn't matter if we win the SEC. It absolutely doesn't matter what that senile announcer said at the end of the Georgia game (even though an old man saying internet.com, because he couldn't remember the name, was funny in my book) We are here to stay until Zook is no more.
Last but not least, you did make me 'laugh out loud' by saying Zook beat Georgia and that the players like and respect him. The GATORS beat Georgia in spite of Zook's play calling, and something tells me if you happen to see Grossman drunk at the Swamp (which isn't too rare btw), he will tell you what he really thinks about having to RUN FOR HIS FRIGGIN LIFE every play.
Please foreward this e-mail to that coward with the bag on his head.
If you are an alum of the U of F, I suggest that you find a new team to run down. We don't want you, need you or like what you are doing. Just go away and take your Nole/Hurricane/Bulldog/Tiger/Rebel/Gamecock loving friends with you. You are an embarassment to the U of F and only add fodder to our enemies arsenals. Go away !
James Davis firstname.lastname@example.org
FRZ.com: When you say 'we', do you mean the University of Florida? Because I don't know anyone who actually went to UF who refers to our great university as 'U of F'. Furthermore, let it be known that your cellphones suck.
It's funny how myself and others like me can absolutely want to fire Coach Zook and then he seems to come up with the win. I don't understand what is going on with this program, but if he wins in Tallahassee, he will have done something that Spurrier never did. (and with better talent on Spurrier's side I might add.)
I still think Zook should be gone.
FRZ.com: Tommy, Tommy, Tommy. My friend, you are experiencing symptoms of Zook Inferrable Validation, sometimes referred to as the 'ZIV' (not to be confused with the 'HIV'). ZIV can cause delusions of grandeur, such as the inference that a win over FSU this year would compare to a win in previous years. While the rivalry is still (and always will be) intense, a win over this particular FSU team has been shared by the likes of Louisville. We are merely the 'other' Florida team with 3 losses.
You should seek help before your ZIV turns into full blown AIDS (Acute Intelligence Deficiency Syndrome), which our friend Leroy is suffering from above.
Not much room to argue that this year has been a little rocky. But you've certainly have yourself up on some pedestal to take the approach you have. Did you ever take SOS to task for not winning the NC last year? We were stocked w/ talent and we STILL lost two games. So what if our games were prettier - we still lost. We didn't even win the SECE.
If I recall correctly, you're an alum who was simply beside himself over the hiring of Zook. Sounds to me like you're a whinny little punk. There are plenty of forums for your to share your opinions and vent over the season...so why bring on such negative publicity to the school? And for arguments sake, you obviously have a 50% chance of being correct - that Zook was a poor hiring choice. So then what? You'll be the savior that convinced a multi-million $$ program to rethink its hiring strategy? When I first heard about the FRZ site, I figured it was a sign of the times (pessimism) or maybe just a tasteless prank. But to see that you're still around simply embarrasses me as an alum.
Show a little character - take the site down and issue an apology to the Gator Nation. So what if Zook was bad hire - it's just a football game...and UF is about more than just football.
Atlanta, UF '93, '95 email@example.com
FRZ.com: Greg, your letter had quite an effect on me. Please see the timeline below for a complete re-enactment of my first reading:
Did you ever take SOS to task...
well, no, I guess I didn't, did I....
...why bring on such negative publicity to the school?...
damn, I guess I am being a bit harsh...I DO respect and love UF...
...issue an apology to the Gator Nation...
you know what, he's right. I should really take the site down, this is bad....
...and UF is about more than just football...
WHAT WHAT WHAT???!!! SINCE WHEN DID CRACKHEADS START GETTING ACCESS TO COMPUTERS??? DAMN THOSE PUBLIC LIBRARIES!!! UP WITH FRZ!!! WE MUST RID THE GATOR NATION OF THIS INSANITY!!!
IT IS NEVER JUST A FOOTBALL GAME. IT IS GATOR FOOTBALL.
PS - Never write this address again you filthy pig.
I have tried several times in the past to get to the FRZ.com website and express my intense displeasure, but have not been able to do so because of the traffic jam....
I have been a Gator fan since the mid fifties, otherwise known as the Dark, Dark Ages (even though it spawned that super QB that later on gave us such cheer) so I have been used to total despair on Sundays about what happened the day before-- but I NEVER thought those days would come again until I heard good ol' Jeremy had signed up a guy that had been booted off the Athletic department staff. And, lo and behold, here he is now a Head Ball Coach with all kinds of stupid sputterings from a mouth that never ceases and a head full of toothpaste who cannot, no matter what, make a real good squad of great players play the game.
Keep up the good work-- because a fire letter I sent Jeremy was totally disdained and never answered-- and perhaps we might get rid of both those
amoebas causing dysentery...
J. Masson firstname.lastname@example.org
FRZ.com: What kind of toothpaste do you figure it is? I use Crest personally, I just don't fill my mouth with it just before a live, nationally televised interview. Thanks for the insight....I thought in the fifties everyone was watching Elvis...
I like to think of myself as a true Gator fan. I've been a Gator fan for about 16 years now. In that time I've seen alot of great season pass by me. I feel in my own personal feelings the Ron Zook era of Florida football is something we needed. College football is about excitement whether it comes from wins or loses. I'd like to see the Gators win every game. But that will never be the case. So I'd rather see them lose than not play at all. Yes, I get upset seeing them lose. That's life! As a huge Gator fan I realize I don't mind having Zook as our coach I think he's doing fine. Spurrier never won every game, nor every sec championship, and not even every National Championship. But we stuck by him didn't we? So quit being an ass and just be a fan. I am!
Shane Richard email@example.com
FRZ.com: I like to think of myself as a little pink pasty on the breast of one of the lovely Mons Venus girls...but that doesn't mean I am one.
Anyway, the point is you may think that being oblivious makes you a 'true' Gator fan, but I personally think it makes you an idiot. Speaking of which, do you usually 'feel in OTHER people's personal feelings'? I heard some priests got in trouble for that....
How about the brilliance of calling timeout last night with 4 seconds left down by 17. After FSU showed some class by not pounding in another TD (which I wish they would've) to make it look even worse than it actually was....we respond by trying to drive the length of the field in 8 seconds...way to go Ron! Fight to the end you ass cavity.
The man continues to amaze and bedazzle us even in the jungles of Honduras!
Mark D. Guillory, Capt, USAF
FRZ.com: By chance Capt. Guillory, do you have any spare Patriot missiles or other artillery lying around that we could put to good use? Keep up the good work and safe return (hopefully to a new HBC)!
I spoke with Foley Wednesday nite when I saw him at the ABC store on Newberry Road. I can only wish that it was next Wednesday (after the fsu game) so I could tell him that he made a mistake when he hired Zook. It is that simple. A mistake that all Gator fans have to pay for; how long we have to pay is uncertain.
Zook is not the quality that we deserve. A million bucks a year. Surely Jeremy can do better than him. Next time I see him I will let him know how I feel.
Class of '65
FRZ.com: It's nice to know Foley has the same problems as the rest of us. Watching this team under Zook this year has turned us all into even bigger alcoholics than we were while winning. It's scary. Shot time!
When I saw this site come up, at first I thought, "Just another case of being able to find ANYTHING online." I had been surprised at the hiring of Ron Zook, but wanted to give him an entire season to see what he could do with the Florida Gators. Here we are, 8-4, having just lost to our biggest rival, and heading to the Outback Bowl. And losing to Florida State isn't the bad part (as much as I HATE IT). The bad part is how OBVIOUS it was that this was all on Zook. He does know passes over 20 yards aren't restricted to the last two minutes of a game, right? We looked timid, withdrawn, and all that is on Ron Zook. Well, consider me on the bus. I hear Mike Stoops may come available from Oklahoma. It could be hard on some players to have two new coaches in two years, but we can't go on like this.
PROUD Sophomore at the University of Florida
FRZ.com: Sean, while we at FRZ are very thankful for the comments you have given us and agree with you whole heartedly, there is one thing we must say in retrospect of our own years at Florida: Get off the computer and go get laid. You are a sophomore at UF. It is your duty.
PS - Maybe you can impress the girl by pointing out your name on our website...chicks dig fame. Be sure to send details...
I am from St. Pete and have had the opportunity to watch this program grow since it's inception and Jim Leavitt is responsible for all of its success. He can recruit like Zook and he can COACH unlike Zook. I watched two big games over the passed couple of years, one two weeks ago against Louisville and the other was a couple of years ago against Pitt and South Florida won both games. In those wins, Leavitt's teams were outmatched talent wise, but he always has two or three superstars that make big plays and role players that are well coached. Last year, they had your boy Stoops tied at halftime in Oklahoma before depth took over. Give him a look - he knows how to recruit in this state and he is one of the best coaches in the country. Remember a few years ago when Kansas State's defense was unstoppable? That was Leavitt running that D.
Thanks and Go Gators!
FRZ: Dear Lee:
You are right, Jim Leavitt would be a good fit at the University of Florida. He has all the prerequisite skills to be successful at this level. Do I see Jeremy Foley hiring Jim Leavitt? No.
Why you ask? Public perception.
It's bad enough that Zook will have to be fired, but to admit that another AD at a state university did a better job in his search for a football coach would be the ultimate insult. So, Jeremy Foley will pluck someone from outside of Florida.
Besides after the Zaunbrecher debacle, the next head coach will have to have some offensive flair ... or be named Stoops.
I know very little about Gator football. In fact, I go to Tulane, so I usually try to avoid the subject of football at all. But I do know about the power of one, and I think it's great to see you getting such a large response regardless of whether you're right or not. It really shows what a person can achieve if he actually tries to achieve it. I think it sucks that people keep telling you that you're not being a true UF fan, and that they should look at their own loyalty. It's a total parallel to someone not liking the way the government works. If they want to change something, people tell them to STOP IT and start being "patriotic" the meaning of patriotic is wanting something you love to live up to its fullest potential in your eyes.
Continue then, to be a truly patriotic Gator.
FRZ: Dear Lauren:
We're right. And we know it.
A Patriotic FRZ
p.s. As a Redskin fan, thank you for Patrick Ramsey!
Just wanted to let you know I enjoy checking out the site from week to week...your commentaries are hilarious, and I'll bet it's therapeutic. If my team had a coach like Zook, I'm sure I'd be doing the same thing...fortunately, they don't. Which brings me to my question...why are you so down on Mark Richt, dude? Sure, he made some mistakes his rookie season, but he seems to be doing pretty well now, wouldn't you say? Talk about him all you want, but deep down you know you'd trade Zook for Richt in a heartbeat and probably ante up some big money for the privilege. Even if Georgia tanks the rest of this season, Richt will still have as many SEC titles in his first three years as Spurrier did...just something to think about.
But anyway, keep your head up, and keep writing!
UGA c/o 1999
(and diehard Redskins fan...ain't it ironic?)
FRZ: Dear Doug:
First, your team had a coach like Zook and Spurrier whupped him here, there and everywhere! Second, the only therapy is for Zook to be fired.
Third, we don't want Mark Richt. Richt is symbolic of everything wrong with college football (not Jackie Sherrill wrong, but within the rules wrong). Mark Richt has no clue how to manage a game. Mark Richt settles for FG's. Mark Richt had the best team in the country last year BY FAR and he kept letting DJ Shockley throw the ball to Guss Scott. Thank you for playing, here's your 4th place trophy.
Finally, the worst realization for all Georgia fans is that Mark Richt IS Ron Zook, only his background is on offense.
How many titles did Georgia win with Spurrier around?
Say hello to Herschel at the Music City Bowl,
I am a Georgia fan and I sat in shock at the way you Crocodile fans screamed "keep ray Goff" "Keep Ray Goff" in 1995 when satan incarnate put up 50 in Sanford Stadium. Well guess what, it is my turn: "KEEP RON ZOOK". How do you non tradition a-holes like it now.
FRZ: Dear Drew:
But we won't keep him seven years!
And we laid 52 on you because I have the game on tape.
It sucks to be a Georgia Bulldog,
I like your website because when it comes to an incompitent head football coach dragging a program rich in tradition down to mediocrity, I know what you're going through. I'm an Ohio State fan who watched John Cooper do to the Buckeyes what Zook is now doing to your Gators.
I know Ohio State wins ugly, but they win. Of all the games Ohio State has won during their streak (begining last season.) Cooper would have easily lost about half those games. Cooper usually looked clueless on the sidelines, especially against Michigan. With Tressel, these close games are so common that it's to the point where panic doesn't set in. Tressel and Cooper both have the same number of wins against Michigan, but Tressel's 2-0 is better than Cooper's 2-10-1.
I hope Florida gets a compitent head coach to replace Zook before he does any more damage, and the AD isn't of the "He wins enough to keep his job" mentality.
Thanks for your time and trouble.
FRZ: Dear George:
Zook should be so lucky to become the next John Cooper.
I feel your pain,